No game

I think you addressed this in your last thread that you started... Why not continue the conversation there rather than start multiple threads...

Really?? Who the f**k are you to pass judgement?! You only read the first couple of posts? Wtf?

Lol! I'm probably the only other weirdo around here that liked the shakes! I can't think of much outside of cream based Soups (like cream of chicken) strained of course..

Pretty awesome.

And that's fine.. What I was really talking about was enabling behavior as exhibited on this forum.. It's just a "trend" for a lack of a better word that I am seeing, feeling...

Here read this about SLIDERS.. Slider Foods Spell Weight Regain For Weight Loss Surgery Patients Soft processed carbohydrates, slider foods, are the bane of good intentions and ignorance often causing dumping syndrome, weight loss plateaus, and eventually weight gain for gastric bypass, gastric band (lap-band), and gastric sleeve bariatric patients. To the weight loss surgery patient slider foods are the bane of good intentions and ignorance often causing dumping syndrome, weight loss plateaus, and eventually weight gain. Slider foods, to weight loss surgery patients, are soft simple processed carbohydrates of little or no nutritional value that slide right through the surgical stomach pouch without providing nutrition or satiation. The most innocent of slider foods are saltine crackers, often eaten with warm tea or other beverages, to soothe the stomach in illness or while recovering from surgery. Understanding Slider Foods The most commonly consumed slider foods include pretzels, crackers (saltines, graham, Ritz, etc.) filled cracker Snacks such as Ritz Bits, popcorn, cheese snacks (Cheetos) or cheese crackers, tortilla chips with salsa, potato chips, sugar-free Cookies, cakes, and candy. You will notice these slider foods are often salty and cause dry mouth so they must be ingested with liquid to be palatable. This is how they become slider foods. They are also, most often, void of nutritional value. For weight loss surgery patients the process of digestion is different than those who have not undergone gastric surgery. When slider foods are consumed they go into the stomach pouch and exit directly into the jejunum where the simple carbohydrate slurry is quickly absorbed and stored by the body. There is little thermic effect in the digestion of simple carbohydrates like there is in the digestion of Protein so little metabolic energy is expended. In most cases patients in the phase of weight loss who eat slider foods will experience a weight loss plateau and possibly the setback of weight gain. And sadly, they will begin to believe their surgical stomach pouch is not functioning properly because they never feel fullness or restriction like they experience when eating protein. The very nature of the surgical gastric pouch is to cause feelings of tightness or restriction when one has eaten enough food. However, when soft simple carbohydrates are eaten this tightness or restriction does not result and one can continue to eat, unmeasured, copious amounts of non-nutritional food without ever feeling uncomfortable. Many patients turn to slider foods for this very reason. They do not like the discomfort that results when the pouch is full from eating a measured portion of lean animal or dairy protein without liquids. Yet it is this very restriction that is the desired result of the surgery. The discomfort is intended to signal the cessation of eating. Remembering the "Protein First" rule is crucial to weight management with bariatric surgery. Gastric bypass, gastric banding (lap-band) and gastric sleeve patients are instructed to follow a high protein diet to facilitate healing and promote weight loss. Bariatric centers advise what is commonly known among weight loss surgery patients as the "Four Rules" the most important of which is "Protein First." That means of all nutrients (protein, carbohydrates, fat and alcohol) the patient is required to eat protein first. Protein is not always the most comfortable food choice for weight loss surgery patients who feel restriction after eating a very small amount of food. However, for the surgical tool to work correctly a diet rich in protein and low in simple carbohydrate slider foods must be observed. The high protein diet must be followed even after healthy body weight has been achieved in order to maintain a healthy weight and avoid weight regain.

Sliders are highly processed junk type food..

And by the way I remember you... You need to come out. Don't be scared of your mother finding out.. You need help. The binging is self sabotage and you are harming yourself. You need to tell your therapist these things. AND she is beholden under law not to tell your mother!

I can't cook worth a ****! Ask my husband! I boil a chicken every week and eat off that.. Or you can buy or roast a chicken easy! A box of Cereal??? I could eat one too if I tried. Or a bag of chips or a quart of ice cream (get the idea) I have to CHOSE not to. Is it hard for me? f**k ya! Harder than you can imagine... But if I do what I'm supposed to (which is eat Protein and veggies) I'm full and satisfied. Oh man and if I eat crap? I just want more and more...

I've never thrown up..... I have an eating disorder. I got the sleeve to help with it. But I have to do my part too. I have to stick to dense Proteins to keep me full. I have to stay away from slider foods. I have to exhibit SELF CONTROL. The sleeve will not jump out of your stomach and knock that **** out of your hand! You have to take personal responsibility!

OMG hiding the wrappers in the garbage under other garbage! I know that one well!

The sleeve will not change your self destructive ways. Going to a therapist that deals in addictive behaviors might be a good thing for you...

I still have my gallbladder, my doctor, like yours, Had me and all of his bariatric patients on actigal For the first 4 months. I feel it's a very sound treatment.

And everyone's sleeve is different yes men and women have different sizes but also from man to man and woman to woman some have shorter stomachs some have longer stomachs

Here are some very recent threads that will give you an idea... http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/98501-how-many-bites-per-meal/page__fromsearch__1 http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/98342-how-many-bites/page__fromsearch__1 http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/98558-how-much-are-you-eating/page__fromsearch__1 http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/98883-how-much-are-you-eating/page__fromsearch__1

Nuts... As in eat some

My mom is like you.. I think it helps her not eat when she's pushing it on others..

Lol my kids used to hide their candy from me! I'd go in their rooms and hunt it down when they went to school.

Lol sorry But for a secret binger it's a major victory! And not one I succeed at everyday..

They make me feel a lot of things.... Sick, scared, angry, concerned. And for some of us. It gives the green light. For me It does not get easier with time.. if anything it more challenging! Easier to become complacent. I come here for support and to support. But there are days when I question whether I should be here.