No game

Thanks guys. I needed a little levity tonight! It's been a "heavy" day.

Hehehe.... Or that f**king Easter candy in the next room!!!

Geeze fiddle if I'm going to try and slime I want to be able to gorge on something better than chicken and veggies!! That's why I vote for Martin to do it!

I think you need to prepare yourself for these "side effects" of surgery Hair... it will thin You may not be able to tolerate milk for a while Water is necessary, but is challenging. Pooping? Well it's a sad fact but yes it's hard! (No pun intended )

Maybe just different doctors protocols then? Like the gallbladder medications. By the way I did not have them... But did get gallbladder meds.

Ok, I think as an experiment one of us needs to push the limits and see if it is possible for "Those of us who can't". You know, just to make sure that we have in fact been robbed or that we just never pushed it!! I vote for Fyre storm ( Martin) to do it, for science sake!

Sounds like you, John and I are a few of the "lucky" ones that never had these issues!! Oh and "dumping" no dumping here!

Mark I applaud your discipline! I'm hoping I can muster some more up! I'm finding the further out you get the easier somethings get but on the flip side... the further out you get somethings (like being able to eat more) get more challenging.

Ok this is between me and MrsG so advert your eyes!! Have you ever wondered if you ate enough maybe you could slime or throw up?? I mean maybe we are not doing it right! I do get full if I eat at bite or two to much I get miserably full, but that's it!

We shall see my dear!!

Haha.. Fiddle I think it's my week to be tested! Yesterday with "psycho donuts" today with chocolate eggs! I feel nervous about this camping trip I will be out of my "routine" and there will be many temptations (s'mores anyone) On a side note. Some people after this surgery can't stand sweets now, not me. And some people throw up after eating to much, I read it everyday here. I've never thrown up, I feel defective in that way! I want the automatic emergency evacuation method that others have if they f**k up!

I just posted this in another thread about Easter... One week after Easter!!! I thought I made it through scot free. No such luck! I just got back from my mother in laws house I had to go drop off the dog because we are going camping tomorrow... Well right before I leave she hands two Easter "bags" full of candy for the kids AND Another bag for my husband and I "if I wish to partake" she said. Lord above help me Cadbury eggs and chocolate Bordeaux Eggs!!! The agony! The temptation! I need to be strong but being strong has always been my weak point. : / Oh and did I mention I'm PMSing (and going camping great combo)

One week after Easter!!! I thought I made it through scot free. No such luck! I just got back from my mother in laws house I had to go drop off the dog because we are going camping tomorrow... Well right before I leave she hands two Easter "bags" full of candy for the kids AND Another bag for my husband and I "if I wish to partake" she said. Lord above help me Cadbury eggs and chocolate Bordeaux Eggs!!! The agony! The temptation! I need to be strong but being strong has always been my weak point : /

Fiddle, sadly I matched all 7 too...

My attempt to lift this from a dark place...

I think addictions often begin as a pursuit of pleasure to numb the discomfort of painful losses. But addictions multiply the pain. In time, it becomes worse than the pain we were trying to relieve. food. The more we eat to feel better, the more our bodies work with our emotions to increase the demand. The cycle is addictive.

I just want to say upon reading the new posts this morning. That i really appreciate everyone's thoughtful responses... I'm finding this thread to be very eye opening in many ways, Not just because we have different views on why we personally over eat. but because it has really made me think more deeply this week about my own battle.. Today at this moment I feel a bit stronger than I have all week. I had now idea when I started this thread that it would impact me in this way... It was made out of curiosity about differences! So addiction... It is a scary thing and for me it is an addiction. This passage from the post I made above, is me; Their obsession is demonstrated in that they spend excessive amounts of time and thought devoted to food, and secretly plan or fantasize about eating alone. Addiction runs in my family.. My mother has been an alcoholic my entire life, she was a single mom. She was all we had. My brother was an alcoholic and a functioning drug addict he held a high powered job and was a much respected person in his industry. But he was a drug addict... He was just as addicted to his AA program and exercise when he quit.. and that is what scared me it was the same all consuming obsession but put into something healthy. But I found it fanatical. When he fell of the wagon it was gradual with "well when I entertain clients I'm ok to have a social drink" "I can handle a little now" Then he would fall... The last time he went back to AA it was with a vengeance and it worked for him. Side note he was always very judgmental of me and others when he was working his program, I think it was because he was desperately holding on to his recovery (program) for dear life. He fell of the wagon one last time five years ago, And killed himself with an overdose, the day after spending the day with his best friend (sponsor) training for a road biking event. I will never know if it was suicide or accidental. But it impacts me on a daily basis, in to many ways to explain here. He was my only sibling and I was his. we knew each others demons intimately... My mother quit drinking 4 years ago, she called last week and she fell of the wagon for the first time two weeks ago. She's back in her program now though.... When I write on this forum that this surgery is my last hope, it is! I operate daily coming from a place of thankfulness (for this surgery, my husband and children) but I also operate from a place of fear.. My name is Laura. I am a flawed human being.

On that note, I think all of us are right..

Compulsive overeating, also sometimes called FOOD ADDICTION is characterized by an obsessive/compulsive relationship to food. An individual suffering from compulsive overeating disorder engages in frequent episodes of uncontrolled eating, or binge eating, during which they may feel frenzied or out of control, often consuming food past the point of being comfortably full. Bingeing in this way is generally followed by feelings of guilt and depression. Unlike individuals with bulimia, compulsive overeaters do not attempt to compensate for their bingeing with purging behaviors such as fasting, laxative use or vomiting. Compulsive overeaters will typically eat when they are not hungry. Their obsession is demonstrated in that they spend excessive amounts of time and thought devoted to food, and secretly plan or fantasize about eating alone. Compulsive overeating usually leads to weight gain and obesity, but not everyone who is obese is also a compulsive overeater. While compulsive overeaters tend to be overweight or obese, persons of normal or average weight can also be affected. In addition to binge eating, compulsive overeaters can also engage in grazing behavior, during which they return to pick at food throughout the day. These things result in a large overall number of calories consumed even if the quantities eaten at any one time may be small. When a compulsive eater overeats primarily through bingeing, he or she can be said to have binge eating disorder. Left untreated, compulsive overeating can lead to serious medical conditions including high cholesterol, diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, sleep apnea, and major depression. Additional long-term side effects of the condition also include kidney disease, arthritis, bone deterioration and stroke. Other negative effects may include the amount of money that is wasted on food and the feelings of low self-esteem that comes as a result of bingeing. Signs and symptoms Binge eating, or eating uncontrollably even when not physically hungry Eating much more rapidly than normal Eating alone due to shame and embarrassment Feelings of guilt due to overeating Preoccupation with body weight Depression or mood swings Awareness that eating patterns are abnormal Rapid weight gain or sudden onset of obesity Significantly decreased mobility due to weight gain History of weight fluctuations Withdrawal from activities because of embarrassment about weight History of many different unsuccessful diets Eating little in public, but maintaining a high body weight Very low self-esteem and feeling need to eat greater and greater amounts. Addiction During binges, compulsive overeaters may consume from 5000 to 15,000 food calories daily, resulting in a temporary release from psychological stress through an addictive high not unlike that experienced through drug abuse. In bulimics, this high may be intensified by the act of purging. Researchers have speculated there is an abnormality of endorphin metabolism in the brain of binge eaters that triggers the addictive process. This is in line with other theories of addiction that attribute it not to avoidance of withdrawal symptoms, but to a primary problem in the reward centers of the brain. For the Compulsive Overeater, the ingestion of trigger foods causes release of the neurotransmitter, serotonin. This could be another sign of neurobiological factors contributing to the addictive process. Abstinence from addictive food and food eating processes causes withdrawal symptoms in those with eating disorders. There may be higher levels of depression and anxiety due to the decreased levels of serotonin in the individual. There are complexities with the biology of compulsive eating that separate it from a pure substance abuse analogy. Food is a complex mixture of chemicals that can affect the body in multiple ways, which is magnified by stomach-brain communication. In some ways, it may be much more difficult for compulsive overeaters to recover than drug addicts. There is an anecdotal saying among Overeaters Anonymous members that "when you are addicted to drugs you put the tiger in the cage to recover; when you are addicted to food you put the tiger in the cage, but take it out three times a day for a walk. The physical explanation of compulsive overeating may be attributed to an overeaters' increased tendency to secrete insulin at the sight and smell of food, though medical evidence supporting this is controversial. Research has found a link between the sugar and fat content of foods and binging behaviors.

You better call child protective services on his ass!!!

I just want you to know I'm rooting for you!

I just wanted to say thank you John, for that very thoughtful and honest answer...

I boil a chicken and then shed the meat of and do things like top a salad with it or make chicken salad also use the shredded chicken with burrito spices and a little cheese on top.. Oh and here's my chili recipe (just made it last night) I make an easy chili for my family: 1pound ground turkey 1 red bell pepper chopped 1 green bell pepper chopped 1onion chopped I small can tomato paste 1 can diced tomatoes 2 cans black Beans 1 can chicken stock a handful of chili powder to taste And garlic powder, salt, pepper..or if I'm feeling even more lazy I just use a packet of chili spices and disregard the directions on it! Brown the turkey in a big pot Dump the rest in and cook until peppers are tender

No more babies???