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Boy you really put it all together. Kinda a smart one aren't you! Feel your pain though. i have not been without my old friends as long as you have. I hope I handle it as well as you do...I don't feel so alone in my situation now. i see that someone else experienced it and came through it. I really want to be like you when I grow up in this area. Esp. when the pain eases. For now it is still fresh for me. But you give me hope!! Thank you for that

You deserve all the best! You have worked hard to feel wonderful.Congratulations! Did you have to mention a warm climate we are still in a deep freeze here in Eastern Canada!

I think that if my husband hears me say one more time that I am so scared of gaining my weight back he may divorce me...I think when you have come this far in the journey and anywhere is this journey that fear is a good thing to a certain extent. He is very surprised that I am not the other way panicking that I'm losing too much. I always worried about that. Oh the changes we make as we get older and our mind set changes...... That is only one thing I worry about on a daily basis.....Comes with the territory I think!

There are a lot of threads on this site that talk about this very subject. In fact most of us have a story to tell. I am sorry that this has happened already to you. You know now that this individual is not a supporter for you. You can evaluate the friendship and decide if it is worth fighting for or not. Sorry hun. Most on this forum have faced what you are facing and chose to go on in life without that extra baggage. I did. I lost all my friends except one. I don't know if it is because she needs me more then I need her or that she truly loves me...But she is the only one that is still part of my life. The rest received letters explaining the end of our friendships and I have not heard from any of them since... Hope it does not come to that for you...But right now so early out......you need true honest and helpful support! All the best kid!

We all understand your point. We are not condoning the word fat or the meaning of it or the fact that is was said. What we are trying to get you to see is that there is nothing else she can do except apologize. You are right in your feelings. They are true and not unwarranted. But the fact remains that this is all that can be done. hopefully we have all taken away something from this thread that we can use or not use to encourage others. There is no giving a pound of flesh to satisfy those who are upset by this thread. We get your thought process. We understand. Please don't be upset because we see it both ways. I can tell from your posts that you are sensitive to others and their thoughts and most likely have experienced this yourself and been like me...Will remember until the day you die...But we must go on. You must go on. Consider her corrected. And that she has the free will to grow and change and see things differently then before... I hope the very best for you in your journey. Like all of us...True success.....

Today was a good start. My trainer said he can see some refinement in my muscles...There you go..It is working. He said muscle!!!! Asked him if he could see it on my butt. But he just laughed and said we are getting there you know. It is going to be something when I get all my muscle mass back.... Can you call this a NSV!

Thanks..lol

Me too so far... still have some to go. your right. it is the most important thing to encourage one another and your comments were spot on.....

You might have your opinion, but it's not always the correct thing to state your opinion and if you do, there's a way to state that opinion. What exactly was the point of stating that a bunch of people that were on a weight loss journey were "STILL FAT"? Like I said before, these people could have been down 100 or more pounds not to mention that they could no longer be suffering from co-morbidities which is a successful journey in itself. My point is you don't know their journey, obstacles, experiences, etc. and to make a rash negative observation is unwarranted and unfair. And please know that people are probably looking at you (us) and saying that we would STILL be fat if we hadn't had surgery, which I'm sure feels about as good as someone saying we're still fat! Absolutely, i did mention some of the names I was called when I was obese. But I think that the OP understands that she posted the wrong word. And has apologized more then once. How long does she or anyone on here have to be chastised for making an error in words. Most likely she has also learned some new things from the replies she has gotten regarding this subject! Not everyone has an elegant way with words. You don't know what she has been through either and how important this meeting was for her..... And your right and has been stressed a lot lately on this forum....This is my "opinion" I am not saying using the word fat was right. I just think the poster got the message! What else can she do but apologize which she has done. I can only remind you that what you write is your opinion as well. Thank you for your feedback.

congratulations..So many more to come!!

Should you brush your teeth before or after ? After, some use salt Water. Others use tooth paste....Me tooth paste for now! LOL

Yup you are right @LipstickLady. No argument here! I did not write my post to discipline anyone...It is just my "opinion" hun!

Day 2 put oil in mouth and almost lost my cookies....now that the oil is dissolved I am okay again...20 min. And I will feel that fresh breath and clean teeth feeling like yesterday.....To bad about the gagging...Going to continue for 2 weeks just to see if there is a difference...uggggggggg

If your taking offence at the word fat....I can tell you it is one of the easiest terms to digest....How about obese, Moby d**k, gigantic, titanic, elephant, rhino, mountain and whale Pick anything huge and I have been called that. I have heard the medical field use some of these terms as well. Like I said in an earlier post here. We are always looking for the aw aspect of this surgery because we all want to be there. Where ever we start it does not matter. It is knowing, KNOWING that others who took the leap before us were successful.. I know personally of a woman who had a by-pass about 15 years ago and after 60 lbs lost she stopped and started gaining weight. 2, 2 liter bottles of pop a day help her keep her from her original goal. Now another woman who knows her is worried to death that she will only lose 60 lbs because well it happened to her.... No guys we are all looking for successes when we go anywhere or read any of these stories. That is normal!!!!!!! Maybe the title spurred some bad reactions. But I bet 10 to 1 that if you were hoping for a celebration for weight loss and it was not there to what your mind thought it would be. You too would have been disappointed... I know I would have been thrown into some kind of fear, worrying that I might gain it back or struggle to keep it off.... Giving your mind rest by having positive feedback is a powerful motivator. For the poster..it wasn't a great experience. Can we learn from this...YES We can look at the same potential situation and feel completely different about it....Learn that we are all different and we lose at different rates and are different makeups.....And maybe even reach out to some who you can encourage... After all that is the goal of this forum. Not to beat the tar out of someone who had a discouraging experience.......To her it was... When we go through life and two people experience the same event. It is highly unlikely that they would have seen, thought, felt or would even write the exact same thing about it......If you would see it as wonderful, maybe another saw it as I let them cut me open and remove part of my stomach and was in so much pain and had to learn to eat again, learn to reteach my mind about healthy food...etc. That is how I see this posters thread...Nothing more then her being worried about the possibility of her not reaching the goal she has in mind.... She is allowed that guys....I think anyway!

I've been doing this for about a week now. My teeth feel much cleaner. I also use coconut oil and it is so gross until it melts. It's a texture thing. I thought I was the only weirdo out there. I'm reading a book right now about oil pulling that one of my coworkers leant me. It talks about how the teeth are the basis of most of our illnesses in our bodies. Heart disease being one of the biggest ones. It says that our bodies can be full of our mouth bacteria if there is ever any bleeding in our mouths. In my experience as a health care provider, I have never met one patient with nice clean teeth with heart disease. Those that come in for surgeries on their hearts usually have the nastiest teeth I've ever seen. Not all of them but most of them. Plaque and bacteria is the enemy here. I have heard dentist after dentist say that untreated plaque is a recipe for heart attacks.....

LOL... try it again...baby! LOL

costco or the health food store usually carries it

You can expect exactly what is happening to you. Your body is not even healed yet. Careful to keep the Protein intake high. If you don't you may stay where you are for a while. your body is in protection mode....It is in danger it thinks so it stops until it feels it is safe..Amazing right! Just keep to the program and the weight will start to go again...... Fat and muscle weigh the same by the way..the only difference is muscle is more dense then fat.

I wrote on here a long time ago that when I went to my first seminar. The woman they brought in that had WLS ( sleeve ) a year before looked amazing. It is not expected by my surgeon that we be stick thin but healthier. I saw her before picture and then looked at her in awe. When we were done hearing her story she stood up to go and pulled the belt of her leather jacket tight. I watched as it seemed to go and go and go closer to her. i starred at her in amazement. She was the final nail that sealed my decision for the sleeve. When I went home I did not talk about her story or how much she had lost. i talked about what I saw her do with that leather jacket. I said that is what I want to do. Two days later my daughter handed me a gift bag with a short leather jacket that was ( seemed to me to be the smallest jacket I had ever seen.) She said mom..This is what you want to shoot for...When you can wear this your there.....I took it to the hospital at my next appointment and showed it to the team.... They were surprised that I was looking to be that small...I still am. I am 16 months out and have not gotten to wear that jacket yet..I will though.... Everyone looks at things different. I needed to see her in all her glory to realize that there was hope for me too. I think that is what @@Seela is trying to say..not judge them but to see where she herself will be in the future....I would be scared if I saw a room full of WLS patients and some had only lost a bit over time...I would be sad and worried for them too... We all care about each other and always hope for success. My team told me to stop losing weight now...No I don't think so..Not in the jacket yet.....I will never forget that woman and the belt on her jacket.................. never! Oh by the way..the jacket fits everywhere but my gut..Damn gut!!! LOL

It is best to check this out with your team first of all! Next I cannot eat Tuna either...Why I don't know...Some foods will not be tolerated any longer by your new sleeve. Dehydration is something you can fix right away. G2 Gatorade...1/2 and 1/2 a bottle and you will feel better in minutes. It keeps you hydrated by working with your electrolytes stricture [strik′chər]Etymology: L, stringere, to tighten an abnormal temporary or permanent narrowing of the lumen of a hollow organ, such as the esophagus, pylorus of the stomach, ureter, or urethra. It is caused by inflammation, external pressure, or scarring. Treatment varies depending on the cause.

All I can say is some sail through this and some have minimal issues and others well they get a truck load of trouble. Best thing to do is look at the possible positive outcome in the near future. You are your own advocate and control how you deal with the downs that you have and are experiencing...By staying positive and reminding yourself that this is temporary you can get through any problem. It is 50% attitude and 50% the cure...I know you don't see it right now but I believe that you will see things a lot better once the weight starts rolling off and you can see the differences... You can do this.....And later when it is over you can encourage others when they are down from complications...

Oh cool @@Alex Brecher .Kinda scares me to know if people are talking about me and using my name in maybe a bad way....crap! LOL

Well I just got home from my woman's doctor and he told us that I DO NOT HAVE CANCER . I am out of the woods. After several months of biopsy and waiting and worrying and my own doctor scaring the daylights out of me. I am okay! one thing has finally went perfectly right... Hubby almost broke down and cried..... Have to see him for a follow up about the meds he gave me to help with some cramping and pain...But that is that he said..... I think he was surprised at our reactions since we were both staring at him in disbelief...We are so used to just one more thing to deal with through out this journey. It was nice to get some good news! See guys some good news...And on a side note down 2 more lbs.....Zippady-do-dah!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you..It would be nice to have some sailing in my life!

There is no truth in what she is doing to you. just arrogance and pride and selfishness on her part... As my daughter says " who needs enemies" This will hurt I know I lost all but one friend since I had my surgery. There is a light though. Plenty of other people to get to know and build a relationship with. It has nothing to do with your surgery choice. Like you I feel it is up to each and everyone of us to be able to chose and not to be criticized for our choice. Friends who don't realize that it is not "all about them" are not friends. There is always an interchange of communication and give and take.... she has taken too much and gone too far! I am so proud of you for standing your ground... We are here anytime you need to talk to us about how you are dealing with this..I know it is very painful..... Thinking of you as you deal with this new aspect of your personal journey. Jane