I did an online seminar that was great for me since the Dr is a few hours away. I have been to other seminars over the years during my quest to have weight loss surgery. Usually ones that came to my town. My insurance decided to drop bariatric treatment about the time I was getting things started, and then the self pay price was still 20 to 30 thousand. Now there are so many programs and surgeons out there willing to charge much less than they used to. I found one in my State since I didn't really look foreword to an awkward plane ride. I just have to drive for two hours to get there but I think in the end it will be worth the wait and the aggrevation.