FutureBandster

Actually, I have seen a great deal of offensive posts on this thread alone, not to mention a wealth of absolutely wrong information but the offensive posts aren't from the one you accuse. I am still waiting to hear why lap bands are removed at a rate of over 50% by the 6 year mark yet when these SAME people revise to a sleeve they do well. I was the poster child for lap bands. I followed every rule, did all the right things, followed up with my doctor every 2 weeks for 18 months and ended up losing weight to the point of looking anorexic, I was seriously malnourished, I have permanent esophageal damage, I was so weak I couldn't even go shopping to buy clothes that fit because I couldn't walk that far, and all in all, the band almost killed me. And you know what? I am typical. My case was not unusual. Many doctors decline to band anymore, my own employer refuses to band people. He won't place new bands and he won't reposition slipped bands. He will remove them, he will revise to a different surgery type, but he believes it is unethical to place bands knowing he'll get the person back for a revision. We remove about 5 bands a week. And no, we didn't place them. They were placed by surgeons all over the world. I see these people every single day, I work with them, I take care of them. They are not at fault. They have been trying to get banding right for 40 years. Yes, 40. First it was the mesh band, then the non adjustable metal band, then the small adjustable band. Now the mega band. Stats are NO different today than they were 40 years ago. People buy into this nonsense that least invasive somehow means safer. It is NOT safer. Banding provides the slowest weight loss, the least weight loss, the highest regain, and the most complications of all main surgery types. Least invasive means nothing about long term safety issues. I can have you drink poison, that is least invasive. I can slice open your gut and pour in the poison, that is most invasive. But it's STILL poison. When people are having band problems and are facing losing their surgery type they are already at their lowest point. They feel like even WLS can't help their weight issues. To blame them is childish, insensitive, poison to the soul, idiotic, repulsive, insecure, and simply uneducated nonsense. These people need compassion, not a bunch of school yard bullies saying yes yes yes, you phucked it all up. It's all your fault. My butt it's all their fault, it most certainly is NOT a majority of the time. There is a reason many doctors decline to band anymore. Many hospitals decline to band. Heck, entire countries opt not to band and they are doing sleeves now. Sleeves have far superior weight loss and are one heck of a lot safer long term than banding. People do not need your childish finger pointing and uneducated nonsense. They need compassion and a shoulder. Try being adults for damn sakes! Yes, it's much easier to run around pointing that dumbass finger and blaming everyone and everything except the stupid sorry band. It's easier to slam dunk than it is to pony up the compassion and try to treat people like human beings. And it is far easier to slam dunk and then run and hide claiming you won't be reading posts anymore when we all know darn well you are reading. Yes, much easier to do that than to be a friend. Some of you people make me wish I could be around to see the karma when YOU start having band issues. Lecturing people on band rules when some of you have been banded 3 full years and you still aren't at goal. If you were following your own advice, shouldn't you be at goal now? Some of you can't even post accurate information! This nonsense about erosion being the fault of the patient. Total crap. Nobody knows what causes erosion a majority of the time. So how the heck do you guys know? People, at least shoot for accuracy for goodness sakes! But posting a bunch of negativity, blaming people for something they have no control over... it's nothing but insecurity on your part. Get over your silly little selves!

So you do not overeat? You are successful. Congrats to you. How is goal working for you?

This is complete nonsense. All of it is nonsense. The medical community does not know what causes erosion so how do you know? We do know that in a very small percentage of patients that are obviously too tight they can erode. But the vast majority of erosions are from a cause that is totally unknown. This is why when Realize came out with their version of the band and they were advertising that it would cause less erosion they were the joke of the medical community. Since nobody knows why erosion happens a majority of the time it's pretty hard to prevent it with a different band. You are free to think anything you wish but the Fed Govt disagrees with you about who is at fault with failed bands. This is why they recently issued a subpeona to Allergan demanding many of their records. They want to know why a majority of bands are removed due to serious complications before the six year point. So what does this mean? If a majority of bands have to be removed and YOU claim it is usually patient error, are you suggesting just the incredibly stupid get banded? These failed band people who live at McDonalds revise to another surgery type and amazingly, they become smart because with a different surgery type they get to goal quickly. How do you explain this? The ASMBS disagrees with you about caffeine and carbonation causing erosion. Perhaps you should read up on this because it was in 2007 the ASMBS did away with the no caffeine, carbonation, smoking, and NSAIDs rule. They were all proven to NOT cause erosion. Seriously, bariatric surgeons have known this since before you were even banded so with all your worldly facts, how come you don't know this?

Sooooo, WTF is your problem here? We agree that plication is not superior to sleeves. We agree that sleeves are safer than plication, We agreee that Wakins uses message boards for free advertising. WTH do we disagree with?

Dude, I am ALL for calling out ignorance. Seriously... If you knew me as WASaBubbleButt you would know that. I WANT people calling out ignorance. I thrive on it! I love to call out ignorance. It is what makes me function on a daily basis. Bottom line, this is a known complication of this surgery type. It does not matter in the least what surgery type you have, there are known complications. This is one for plication. Period the end. Yeah, he will likely push the band over plication with his nonsense because he IS a band mill. He's a loser, a bottom feeder. He saw the cash cow in plication and AFTER doing these surgeries he figured out the complications. If that isn't the sign of a bad surgeon I do not know what is. Tell me I am wrong and in what ways.

Grow up for goodness sakes. Try and pretend you are an adult.

And BTW... I AM an Aceves patient, I already have his cell phone #. Thanks anyway. And we agree Watkins is full of bullshit.

Yeah, I'll pass on eating your shorts. I think you did that well already. Yeah, I am claiming that plication surgeons are bottom feeders. Deal with it.

I think you are a liar. I know for a fact Aceves will not do this procedure because it's a surgery type only the bottom feeder surgeons do. No good surgeon will do plication. Huacuz... HA! Can we say bottom feeder in 10 different ways? I'm not a fan of Watkins, I think he uses message boards for free advertising. I think Watkins is a loser in every possible way. So be very clear I am not defending him. But I am calling you out as a liar. Lopez-Corvala had the SAME complication, the blood supply was cut off from the stomach. And you are trying to tell us this does not happen? Look at my above post, I gave you the damn link to see for yourself. You should have looked at it before blowing smoke up everyone's butt. Dr. Kuri is a band mill, he doesn't even DO plication or the real deal, a sleeve. You claim to have spoken with Dr. Aceves. Perhaps you should be aware, in order to speak with Dr. Aceves you must first complete the medical questions, submit them to the office and then after he reviews it he returns your call. I call bull shit. Also, Dr. Aceves wouldn't down another surgeon if you paid him to. Something I disagree with but it is what it is. You are a liar.

I think it is a given it is free advertising. Why else would an MD surgeon post on message boards? With all due respect, 99.9% of plication surgeons have limited experience. He is and he isn't. This is an easy surgery to perform, a monkey could do it. Most surgeons won't do it because this is a KNOWN complication of THIS surgery type. Dr. Watkins is just now finding out about it. THAT is what is spooky. Again.... this is a known complication of this surgery type. ALL surgery types have known complications, this is one for plication. A leak is not a surgery failure unless the person dies, most do not. A failure does not mean someone had complications. I take it you are defending YOUR surgery type by burying your head in the sand? This is a known complication of the surgery, deal with it. Sleeves are THE safest surgery long term. Sorry to inform you of facts. Right, damn sure don't base it on your ramblings or Watkins.

I have spoken with several doctors on this issue and all of them decline to do this procedure for this very reason. They believe this is a 'forever' potential complication. As the stomach tissue can slide through the sutures and create a situation where blood flow to the stomach is compromised. John Husted is one of four or five surgeons in the US that is able to take down bypass and revise to DS in the same surgery via lap. I asked him, if you had a patient that insisted on plication and if he wouldn't do it, they would go to another doctor, would he do it? He said no, he would not. They would have to go to another surgeon. He believes this is a dangerous procedure and refuses to do it. He is one of the seriously true revision surgeons in the US. Most bariatric surgeons decline to do this procedure for this very reason. This is not a newly known complication, this is something that has been known since the beginning of plication. As another poster writes, you can't write complication without writing plication.

Well, it's a known to other bariatric surgeons and it does not just happen within a few days of surgery. http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/vsg/4308190/Unexpected-Complication-from-Vertical-Sleeve-Plication/