JillianMarie

Is there any data out there that shows how much the new stomach will stretch over time? I am almost worried as many of the healthy, low calorie foods are also "bulk foods" that are very filling, i don't know if eating them will end up re-stretching the sleeve to where it takes a large amount of food to get full. I am able to consume a lot of soft foods or liquids, much more than i thought i would be able to at this point, which is making my calorie intake a lot higher than i'd like it.

Last night between the stress and pressure i am under and the unbearable hunger i have been having, i couldn't fall asleep after drinking a Protein shake and eating Jello, and i just broke down and ate a big bowl of oatmeal. I dont know what to do. I have surgery Monday. I know Sunday and Sunday night i will have no problem because i will be in airports and on airplanes all day Sunday and then in the hotel room Sunday night and have no food, so i'll be sipping on Water and a Protein Shake Sunday. But getting through till then with NO solids at all is literally impossible for me. I don't know how to handle this and certainly don't want to get there and them not be able to perform surgery on me. I drank a bottle of magnesium citrate this morning, a saline laxative. Basically everything in my lower intestines should move right through me, which should help pull what is in my stomach down. Any suggestions? I just need to make it to the operating table!!

Just wondering what everyone eats and about how much on a typical day. I know that diets and everyone's eating habits vary, I'm just curious to see the comparisons of average menus of successful sleevers :svengo:

I had the sleeve done on the 17th of May, and am also looking for a buddy that i can chat with about everything. I live in Alabama and am Central time, and stay up late (usually after midnight every night), have T-Mobile cell service and unlimited texting and nationwide calling if you are in the US. If you want a buddy and have free time or texting available, feel free to contact me ANYTIME. My cell is 256-479-2528 and is always in my hand, my email is ALRealtorJS@hotmail.com, and i have MSN messenger (ALRealtorJS@hotmail.com) as well as Yahoo Messenger (BlueeyesAL23@yahoo.com). I am single, no kids, and have a lot of free time on my hands to talk/chat right now so it is never a burden. I need motivation as we all do! The best way to reach me immediately is via text, however you can email me at my hotmail address above as well. Thanks!!! Jillian

Hi all! Hopefully everyone is doing great, I haven't posted in quite some time so I wanted to update. The last time I posted i believe I had mentioned that I wasn't feeling restriction anymore, and that it took quite a bit of food to make me full. This was NOT the case post-op initially. For about 6 weeks I had great restriction, but after moving to solid foods i got where i could gradually eat more and more, and when i say that I don't mean that i was testing myself and trying to stretch my sleeve, I mean that my hunger was returning and I felt satisfied only when I ate more. I have tried several things over the past few months to try to experiment and see if it was just my eating behavior, the foods I ate, the timing, or something I was doing wrong. Well, I tried going on a liquid diet to re-shrink my sleeve, and it was unsuccessful. I also tried the 5 day pouch test, and found that I can eat MUCH more dense Protein (cottage cheese, grilled chicken, etc...) than I should be able to eat at this time out (a little over 4 months). My hunger has returned and my stomach actually growls again! It hasn't done that since I was pre-op! I had an upper GI done about a week ago, and it showed that my stomach has stretched quite a bit. Probably due to the fact that it was abnormally elastic to begin with. I feel NO restriction anymore, and if I chose to, I could literally sit and eat for two hours straight. I of course, practice self control and don't let myself do that. But, I have found myself having to try to diet and go hungry again. This isn't fun. I have talked to my surgeon who thinks that I should either undergo the DS or be re-sleeved. I am greatly considering being re-sleeved. Does anyone know someone who has had to have this procedure revised? Thanks!!

Thats good to hear! It only takes a few handfuls when you get the "real" experience at the movie theater! But it makes a great low cal snack at home, the light butter microwave bags make a great snack for movie nights at home, and you can do a lot less damage with popcorn than by munching on other snacks!

It looked terrifying to me as well, and i was sure the first time i ate it that i would get sick. Nope. Do this- pop some popcorn then put a cup in a bowl that has a little Water at the bottom. Or sprinkle some water on top. You will see how it shrivels up into "mush", when you have some liquid in your stomach it is surprisingly easy to digest. I wouldn't recommend eating it without a drink of course, but who can eat salty popcorn without a drink?

I ate popcorn much earlier out than I probably should have, but never had any problems from it. It is a slider for me. I can eat a whole big bag of it but I keep it to the light variety. At the movies you should go by how fast you feel full, it will fill you up faster being that they add butter to the popcorn. (or ask for no butter).

Surgery was Monday in Mexico, and after a few days of pain and suffering, I am back home and recovering. I did have some regrets after surgery, but im sure that is normal :001_tongue: Now i'm just working on the yogurt and chicken broth and juices, ready to get my energy back so i can get to exercising again! I hope that everyone is doing well!! Oh, and 7 lbs down in one week! Mostly Water weight of course but it is so nice to just see the scale go DOWN instead of up for once!! Jillian

We all know that excess carbs can slow weight loss by adding too many calories, and also cause us to become Protein deficient; but have any of you found that carbohydrates cause increased hunger and appetite? My nutritionist gave me a plan that can is somewhat high in carbohydrates compared to what many of you are eating. She said that if it didn't work for me, we can adjust the plan. I have found that ever since moving to solid foods and including carbohydrates, my appetite is much stronger than it used to be when i was on the first month post op diet of mainly protein and very restricted carbs. I didn't find it hard to resist food because i didn't think about it often. But after including bananas, oatmeal, milk, and some cereals and breads, I have a big appetite and get the urge to graze all day. Also, it has lead to some Water retention and bloating. What are your experiences with carbohydrates and appetite? And for those of you that monitor carbs and calories, how many carbs and calories do you allow yourself in a given day? Thanks!

I agree with you all about the healthy fats, I notice that if i eat two tbsp of Peanut Butter I am satisfied for hours and lose my carb cravings as well. The healthy fat and Protein in the peanut butter really sticks with me throughout the day.

Warning- This may be gross or TMI for some: I have been waking up a few hours after falling asleep almost every night after starting on solids, coughing up stomach contents (digested, not solid food, along with stomach acid), as if i have regurgitated in my sleep and started choking on it while sleeping and it doesn't wake me up until i have started choking. Then i sit up and cough stuff out of my lungs for about 10-15 minutes. It is not only really gross, but today for the 2nd time in 2 weeks, i have woken up early with a high fever and severe body aches and pains, sore skin, all the traditional flu like symptoms except for congestion or stomach problems. Both times I have woken up about 5am with the fever and severe body pains and unable to go back to sleep for hours until my fever breaks and the pains subside. It makes me wonder if I am getting stomach contents into my lungs and it is causing a bit of infection. About two weeks ago I got sick with the same type of thing and the Dr. put me on antibiotics assuming i had an infection that was a result of a virus. It did not cross my mind that it could be from aspirating food. I don't have chest pain. But it only makes sense that just a little bit of stomach contents would be all it takes entering the lungs to become infected because it is foreign to that part of the body. I keep from eating 2 hours before bed, but this has been happening since I moved to solid foods and also since i have been laying flat at night on my side or back with one pillow. The initial weeks after surgery i was propped up with about 5 pillows almost to the point of sitting up. Has anyone experienced anything like this before? Or heard of it? It seems awfully weird. I don't want to start taking antibiotics again because of the damage it does on the immune system, but at the same time i don't want to be fighting off infection continuously.

Never heard of that! Thanks for mentioning it, i'll bring it up to my doctor! Nexium is definitely a little too expensive for me!

Prevacid is a PPI. I've got an RX for Nexium that i may fill, my Dr. says that it works better than Prevacid. I took a Reglan last night and it seemed to help a lot though.

Jachut- I have always found this to be true in the past for me, that if i ate whole grains and low glycemic carbs such as some fruit, that I had more energy and it helped control my appetite. I know that there are certain foods that do have carbohydrates but with a low glycemic index that actually keep me from getting hungry, and those are Pure Protein Bars, Supreme Protein Carb Conscious bars (i love the Peanut Butter crunch) and Snickers Marathon bars. I am assuming the high protein content and low sugar helps with the cravings and appetite. Also, strawberries, blueberries and canteloupe all really help with my energy levels and keep my blood sugar stable. I haven't had any problems with berries although canteloupe seems a little hard for me to digest right now, it sits hard on my sleeve.

I have had chronic insomnia for 11 years, and am now taking a combination of Clonopin, Ambien, Trazadone, melatonin, and Simply Sleep or Benedryl (same ingredient) every night to help me sleep. It is unfortunate that i have to take so many things to help me sleep every night. I have never snored, yet i do have a collapsed septum (when i breathe in through my nose, my nostrils completely close), so I have to breathe through my mouth when i sleep. It may contribute towards the waking throughout the night. I also used to suffer from a rare sleeping disorder called NES. Some friends have suggested sleep centers and getting a Cpap or Bipap, I need to check and see if my insurance covers sleep studies, it would be worth a shot. I may start taking Reglan again, which helps move contents of the stomach through faster, it might be worth taking at night to help keep things down rather than coming up. My Dr. gave me an RX for Nexium but I rather not fill it because of the cost, I am currently taking Prevacid. If Nexium is much better than Prevacid it could be worth the price difference.

I keep somewhat of a journal but i don't write down everything down to the number of spoonfuls, and if i have a few sugar free hard candies i dont write that in.. I am getting over 100 grams of protein a day. I eat South Beach Diet bars and a lot of beef Jerky, and I make chocolate pudding with sugar free Jello pudding mix, but substitute EAS chocolate Protein shakes for the milk, which makes it almost pure protein. The crunchy stuff also goes down really easy for me, chips, popcorn, crackers, that kindof stuff... i could probably sit and eat a whole bag of chips before feeling full, it does nothing to me. I'm trying to stay away from that stuff now. Greek yogurt is high in protein. I had a barbeque sandwich tonight, normal amount of meat but only half of the bun, and the pork digested well and has left me full. I just make sure that whenever i eat, whatever meal it is has a good source of protein in it.

Wow the pictures of the cloud bread look incredible! Great idea for making little pizzas, i could melt some fat free mozzerella and turkey pepperonis and no sugar added tomato sauce and it would be perfect! I have to cut down on carbs, my nutritionist told me I was really overdoing it on carbs (well over 150 grams a day) so I would like to adopt the low carb lifestyle. You gave me some great ideas! Thanks!!

I met with a nutritionist today for the first time. She developed a meal plan for me, with substitutions. She did say that very well cooked vegetables are safe at this point, NO raw vegetables, and that I need to increase my fat intake to help with satiety. She said that eating strictly fat free foods all the time doesn't sit in your stomach long at all and will cause hunger sooner. And last, I've been really overdoing it on carbs, causing my insulin and blood sugar to spike, so all refined carbs are out, but 100% whole grain light bread is okay and fruit is also. I feel better that I'm on the right track now!

What is cloud bread? I take it that it is low carb of course. How many carbs do you limit yourself to daily excluding Fiber? And do you also do low fat or not worry about fat as much, just keep the carbs very low?

Greeneyes- I'm also 26 and was sleeved 2 months ago! On the 17th, the day before you!

Oh I see, that makes sense, I'm sorry that went right over my head :confused1: I found a few nutritionists that I will call tomorrow, and whomever I end up getting in with I will see if I can schedule appointments with the 3 of us at a time to work together, it would definitely be beneficial. Thank you for being so inspirational!!

My therapist does know about the surgery and has helped greatly with depression issues, however I know that there is only so much that that therapy can do, a lot of things time will resolve and I will have to change on my own. Good idea Tiffykins about mentioning to a nutritionist that i have had a gastrectomy, that should be easier to understand and work with from their end. We have a huge hospital in town and a large branch solely for nutrition, I'll see about getting into see a nutritionist ASAP and get on a meal plan and routine appointments. That should help guide me and keep me on a positive track. I know that if I have a professional looking down my shoulder and keeping me in line I won't be so confused and be making the mistakes I have been making!

I've been taking Prevacid, but i've only been taking it once a day, and apparently it can be taken twice a day. I agree it's pretty darn gross, i'm trying to nip this in the bud!

It's been almost 2 months, I have been very confused as far as post op directions because my surgeon gave me the clear to eat solids at 5 weeks, and was very strict at first with his post-op directions, but it seemed to progress very quickly. There aren't any local nutritionists that have experience with the sleeve, i have checked into it. I have even checked with the local weight loss surgery centers, and they only perform gastric bypass and lap-band, they have yet to perform the sleeve. I went to two different gastroenterologists seeking their opinions and looking for post- surgery follow up care, and they didn't really understand what I was there for. They said i was fine, and that I should be okay to eat what I am comfortable with eating, and that my stomach will let me know if i have trouble with any foods. One doctor told me to take new foods slow and cautiously, but at 5 weeks to introduce them in small amounts and that I should be okay with them and that the major healing has probably already occurred and my risk for leaks would be very low by that point. At this point the only foods that i have problems with are green Beans, and acidic foods or high fat foods (with the exception of Peanut Butter, it seems to be the only high fat food that agrees well with me AND keeps me full for most of the day). At times I wish i had used a different surgeon whom I would have follow up care with and had better outlines of everything from the start. I have been told different things by everyone. I can always go back to my "safe foods"- yogurt, smoothies, applesauce, and Protein shakes, and try to pass a few more weeks or a month by to give more healing time, as long as I keep myself busy I can distract myself from thinking about eating other foods. I seem to have a fairly high metabolism, after surgery i consumed quite a bit more than most people in the way of calories (around 900 a day through protein shakes) and still lost pretty fast. If I can aim at about 1200-1400 a day, I can slowly get to my goal, then maintain at around 1800-2000/day.