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OK people if this thread gets out of hand it will have to be locked. I am a disbanded person as well and I face some of the same issues Lisa mentions. I want to eat that order of fries so I stay away from them because I know it will just fuel my fire. There is no newbies vs veterans. In my book there are just people trying hard to win this battle of the bulge the best way we all know how. If hearing what a former banded person has gone through scares you into NOT getting the band then that is YOUR choice. We cannot and should NOT OWN what scares YOU or makes YOU do or NOT do something. Take responsibility for your own actions and I will take responsibility for mine. Why would you give anyone that kind of power over you? If you make blanket statements saying you are scared to get a specific procedure because of what someone told you then you should also blame your surgeon because he or she should have given you the same information. That is called informed consent. OK I am finished. I may have overstepped my boundaries as a moderator but I am so fed up with all the bickering and back biting over the last few days. My statements are colored by those past experiences. I just want us to all be one family of struggling women to reach a common goal. Wear that size (fill in the blank) and to look sexy in a thong!! LOL!!!

This thread will also be LOCKED. See I don't play favorites. This type of posting serves NO purpose other than to make Moderators lives miserable. And yes I spoke to Delarla and told her to STOP IT.

For those of you that think the Moderators have a biased shame on you. WE do the best we can with what we have. We do not get paid we do this out of our own time away from our friends and families. It is a thankless job. I will gladly give it up as some think you can do a better job. It isn't easy having to reprimand your friends all the time. It isn't easy calling a good friend and telling her to STOP this shit. To those that keep posting comments and keep rehashing the same subject over and over what purpose does this serve? As far as a moderator contributing to the troll talk I assume that was me. I wanted to make light of the whole subject and I guess that got lost on some. I don't consider myself part of any group, troll or sunshine sister or disgruntled failure at this point. I am a struggling FAT woman trying to make her life better by dealing with more important issues than a bunch of women that can't even be civil to each other. Sorry but that had to be said. Everyone has their own opinions and you can either agree or disagree or agree to disagree. This thread is NOW LOCKED.

YUK Spits out that icky stuff. Want more junk NOW!! LOL!!!

I took Ambien for years and never had the sleep eating reported. I might be the exception to the rule. I am not taking Lunesta and it seems to be working like a dream. GET IT DREAM!! LOL!! I kill me. Seriously though I hope I never go through the sleep eating mentioned.

I am an Old Disgruntled Failure TROLL then. FEED ME!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here are my requirements. LOL!!! Chocolate and lots of it, CHEETOS and lots of them, Fritos and lots of them, Get the picture?

Ta DA!!!! Introducing for the first time here at LBT with her rendition of "on the good ship lollipop" here is the world renowned HEIDI HEAVENTHONG!!!! AND THE CROWD GOES WILD!!!

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Hello Susan and TellyMelly: 1. I have along with the other moderators been watching all the threads that have "bashing" in them. 2. Moderators do not play favorites as was implied. 3. We take each incidence and see just where the problems lie based on the rules and guidelines we ALL agreed to when we joined. 4. After careful review of said "Disgruntled" thread none of the moderators saw where there was a specific person's name mentioned or singled out for attack. IF you can show this to me or another moderator then we will in fact deal with it. (Edit = since posting this I have had to lock said thread) 5. The fact that we are having to use our moderator skills saddens me greatly. It means that some cannot let things just die on their own and therefore mod must step in an do our jobs. 6. I will say that I was unaware you did not know the threads were deleted already. For that I apologize. 7. Everyone that participated on the two deleted threads were addressed and reminded of the rules when I posted them. If it will end this discussion once and for all I will post a BRAND NEW THREAD with the rules for all to view. 8. Just like I don't discuss what I speak to you about in PM's I will not discuss what I have or will discuss with other members. So, how do you know the very things you are complaining about hasn't already been addressed. Please allow the mod some commen sense and fairness. LAST, All topics of bashing, mob mentality, cliques, etc should NOT be discussed in my humble opinion in a public forum. Those discussions should be taken to the PRIVATE MESSAGES which is just that PRIVATE. Susan, you are a sweet person and have alot of good information and knowledge to share please do not let this stop you from sharing but please let it remind you of how easily it can be to get pulled into the scuffle at times. I know it has happend to me before and I lost some friends because of my own weakness. Tellymelly, I don't know you well enough so just remain true to yourself with the understanding that not everyone will agree with your comments or understand your sense of humor. And I will check out the other thread mentioned as well. I hope this has helped allay some of your concerns about how moderators handle things.

I am "OLD, DISGRUNTLED, AND A FAILURE" since I lost my band to erosion.

Alexandra I second that emotion.

The two threads mentioned have been deleted after discussing it with the originators. So, to keep bringing this up when the threads no longer exist is not accomplishing anything. I do understand the frustration felt from all parties involved and respect their opinions. Just not the way they were expressed. I believe we should lock this thread now to prevent further postings.

Ya know I have heard that too. What I have learned is that if you eat above the recommended dietary fiber it just flushes out the system and takes whatever you have eaten along with it.

Did you get in your: Exercise today? Nope but my day is young. Your Protien? Not even close but it is just noon here. Your Water? Almost! Need two more 16 oz bottles and the day ain't over! Yup me too. Water almost in. NOW this is simple enough I can participate in this. LOL!!! Forgot to mention that I am not banded any longer. Lost it due to erosion in Dec 05. So I am flying solo.

WOW!! I wondered why you didn't return my phone calls. I will try to connect with you over the weekend or into this coming week. Know that I am sending you warm hugs and girl call me next time. LOVE YA

WOW!! Sue I wish my labwork looked that good. Yeah a little more sunshine to boost that Vit D would help or just make sure you calcium has Vit D in it. I think your labs are just find and within normal limits. The albumin isn't anything to get concerned about. Just up your intake of Protein as suggested. You are doing great. So happy for you. GO SUE!!!

I hear all your good suggestions and recommendations but the thing that is keeping me from re-scheduling my appt is FEAR. I don't wanna be yelled at for something I should have known better. I wanna try to get back on track before I go see him. I know it sounds weird but that is the way I work. LOL!! It's like you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar and you know you are going to get punished but you run anyway. I an running till I can put the cookie's back. LOL!! Just my own weird head games. Yes I know it doesn't make sense and yes I know I shouldn't do things that way. But I do and no amount of pushing or prodding will make me do it differently. In fact it will make me dig my heels in deeper and stay on course. I know you all give me suggestions out of love and support and I so appreciate it. I don't expect you to understand or even go along with my line of thinking. I am OK with that. I can't fight my head demons and deal with feeling like a failure at the same time. Therefore I will NOT go see my docs till the next appt I made. Love you guys.

Well, I just weighed myself this morning and i am still hanging at 264 - 265 lbs. That is a maintenance of 24 to 25 lbs gain from when I was debanded. SIGH!! AT least the upswing has stopped for now. I will receive my new supply of Nutrisystem foods in the mail in the next week but in the meantime I am struggling to eat healthier and get my water in. I am also reading a couple of really good books on self-healing. Rhonda Britten from Starting Over TV (the blonde life coach) has written some just awe-inspiring books that help you deal with your fears and to understand how they affect your every day life. She has one that I just finished called "Do I Look Fat In This?" What an eye opener. I highly recommend it. The one I am reading now is called "Fearless Living". Just getting started on this one. She also, has "Fearless Loving" and "30 days to a new you". I can't wait to read those as well. Fear is a powerful feeling and can cripple us to the point of stagnation. I am trying to conquer all my fears. Wish me luck.

Lisa: the Zetacaps worked for me when I remembered to take them 30 min before eating. Don't buy anymore I have about 4 bottles I will GIVE you. Just PM me your address. I am doing Nutrisystem and it was working. In the first month I lost 6 lbs. I went off of it and now I am waiting for my month supply of food right so I can start again. I went off due to some major travelling I was doing and couldn't stick to the plan. I highly encourage you to do Nutrisystem. They provide the meals and you supplement with fresh fruit and veggies. Wonderful tasting foods too. I am thinking about asking my doc for some Phentermine as well. I was on the Phen/Fen combo years ago and lost 25 lbs in two months so I know it works.

Megan it is a long hard struggle and battle with or without the band. The good thing is you recognize your patterns now and can evaluate why you want to overeat. Emotion is almost always connected to why we overeat. I stress ALMOST always. Most times we don't know why we overeat. We just do! That is when it really sucks. I am at that stage now. I don't know why I overeat I just do. I just came home from eating my lunch with John and I am already thinking about finding something in the house I can eat. That is sick now. Just wanted to say I feel your pain, I understand your frustration, and I am cheering you on to victory.

51,999,998 left to watch now. I am not watching it anymore once I learned Chris was off the show. The rest of the show can go to H E Double hockey sitcks as far as I am concerned.

I LOVE MINE (when I use it)!!! LOL!!! It really can work those abs and is easy on the back and neck.

June 11th I am in Vegas June 17th thru 27th I have family in due to my son graduating from High School on the 22nd. I could most likely slip away for a few hours to meet you'se guys but couldn't hang out long. Just let me know.

JennyJ: Sorry for your health issues. It can be hard enough to deal with just our weight related issues but when they are compounded by other things on top of that then it can become overwhelming. I will keep you in my prayers. I had my band removed Dec 2005 for Erosion. I had my band for 18 months and managed to lose 60 to 70 lbs. I have since gained back 20 of those. I have considered having another band placed and other WLS as well. I just don't know if I want to go down that road right now. I go see my Band Doctor in July and those are things we will discuss. I can't even begin to face another surgery unless my insurance will cover it. AT this point I don't think they will and I don't know if I have enough fight in me for an insurance battle. Only time will tell. I hope you find the answers to your body reactions. Keep us posted.

Niambi had a meltdown with Christie, OOPS! Let me back up. LOL! Jodi and Iyanla were in session and Iyanla says she has someone to help Jodi have a serious talk with her mother. GUESS WHO walks in? YUP!! Jodi's mom. They have a great conversation about the past and mend wounds and heal hearts. It was so wonderful to see. Antonio is still working on redecorating the guest room. She has to prime and paint the walls before morning. She was hoping that her roommates would just "GET" that she wanted them to help. She didn't want to "ASK" them to help her. Niambi showed up to help prime the room. Part of the show was Niambi and Antonio dising the rest of the roommates because they weren't down there helping. However everyone offered to help her all day long. She never once said sure I could use some help. HELLO!!!! The roommates were upstairs waiting for Niambi and Antonio so they could all take Jodi's mom to dinner. At dinner, Iyanla shows up with a cake that says "CONGRATULATIONS JODI YOU HAVE GRADUATED" YIPPEE!! Celebration all around. Christie is pissed that Niambi, who is pissed that no one helped Antonio prime the room, has an attitude with her. They proceed to have a conversation at the table about it all. I fault Christie for bringing it up at the restaurant. Then Antonio blurts out "Antonio don't need no help or shit from anyone. I have no expectations from any of you." She just really disrespected Jodi on her celebration, Jodi's mom, the rest of the roommates with that comment and Iyanla called her on it. It is gonna get interesting between Christie and Niambi before it is all said and done. Sommer has to put together a Hip Hop dance recital in two days for the roommates. She is stressed about that but handling it well. Jodi will graduate but not leave the house till Christie finishes her 5K walk/run. Jodi made a committment to participate so she will stay till that is done. I think that is it.