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Just curious to know!

I am a type II Diabetes myself~! Even though I feel more like saying I WAS! They say that Diabetes never really goes away but my doctor said that with the weight under control I could take another diabetes test and come out as negative. Anyway my glucose level was up in the 250's before surgery but since then I get between 72 and 110 everyday. I hardly even bother checking since it's ALWAYS good. Had to do a little bit of conversion here since we use mmol/l here in Australia and in Canada as well instead of mg/dl. http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/bs_conv.htm Banded on March 6th 2007 First Fill April 4th Weight before surgery 250 lbs Current Weight 215 lbs

M y dietician suggested Supradyn when I went on my liquid stage and I've been taking it eversince along with my regular "glass" of Berocca first thing in the morning.

just like Kat I would hate to live without my computer and when it comes to food strangely enough the only thing that I HAD to HIDE in the back of the fridge during my liquid time of all things it's actually a "good food" and I eat a lot of it now (darn this needs some editing LOL ) anyway here it is .....Don't gag anyone.... COTTAGE cheese :D 100g = 90 Cals Just because I can't find the ZERO percent fat CC here! Good food. Good Protein and an absolute MUST after a night at chess or bridge and way too much coffee! :thumbs_up:

Now to understand all this you have to have seen Forrest Gump AND My Cousin Vinny! I don't think that as a French Canadian living now in Australia I ever had grits but I was under the impression they were made out of cornmeal not wheat???

well here is week 2 Week Summary Friday, April 13, 2007 1291 Cal 150 min Exercise 1000 Cal Saturday, April 14, 2007 1327 Cal 60 min Exercise 500 Cal Sunday, April 15, 2007 920 Cal None Monday, April 16, 2007 1410 Cal 90 min Exercise 800 Cal Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1199 Cal 35 min Exercise 700 Cal Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1175 Cal None Thursday, April 19, 2007 1295 Cal 40 min Exercise 300 Cal Average 1231 Cal 54 min Exercise 471 Cal

well here is week 2 Week Summary Friday, April 13, 2007 1291 Cal 150 min Exercise 1000 Cal Saturday, April 14, 2007 1327 Cal 60 min Exercise 500 Cal Sunday, April 15, 2007 920 Cal None Monday, April 16, 2007 1410 Cal 90 min Exercise 800 Cal Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1199 Cal 35 min Exercise 700 Cal Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1175 Cal None Thursday, April 19, 2007 1295 Cal 40 min Exercise 300 Cal Average 1231 Cal 54 min Exercise 471 Cal

Yes I can too but I hardly ever do now that I realised that it has 6 Calories per gram and a gram is very small. I used to fill shakes with 2 or 3 rounded tablespoons of PB and was wondering why I wasn't losing weight since I was eating "healthy". There are much better ways to get good Proteins IMNSHO. http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c219o.html Per 100g (about 4 oz) PB will give you 50g of fat and 24g of Protein and 589 Cal Egg Whites, eggs, Tuna, chicken, Cottage cheese would give you much more proteins for much less fat and calories. Anyway since I did my little research I limit my PB to one tiny flat teaspoon at 10g and it seems a lot since for the same calories I can eat almost half a cup of cottage cheese. I try to average 300/400 Cals a meal 4-5 times a day and one meal could be 2 ounces of Peanut Butter and nothing else or the following Breakfast Chili 100g 102 Cal Cottage Cheese 50g 50 Cal 1 Toast 98 Cal 1 egg 80 cal 330 Cal Egg Whites 1 cup 115 Cal 24.1g Prot Chili (Canned) 100g 100 Cal 6.6 g Prot 2.8g Fat 1 toast 35g 98 Cal 3.3g Prot 0.9g Fat Philadelphia XLite 25g 31 Cal 3.2g Prot 1.2g Fat 344 Cal (37.2P, 4.9F) or even Olive Oil 3g 27 Cal 3g Fat Butter 3g 22 Cal 3g Fat Egg Whites 1 cup 115 Cal 24.1g Prot Mushrooms 155 g 33 Cal Green Onions , Caps, Toms 28 Cal 125 g* see box Ham 38g 38 Cal 7g Prot 1g Fat Parmesan 10g 56 Cal 3g Prot 5g Fat 319 Cal 516 Cal 31g Prot 12g Fat Note the Parmesan could easily be replaced by the same amount of PB but it just doesn't taste the same on an omelette LOL

Anyone who knows where the title comes from will know my fav book of all times! Banded on March 6th and First Fill on April 4th I must say that I am very pleased with this new start despite a PB or two and one of them being a "EPGSHFLYADV": Excrutiatingly Painful Gagging Sliming Heaving Feels Like You're About to Die Vomitation (suggested replacement for PB, by Strawarts) Considering all this is so new the constant positive results are very rewarding. I have lost 31.5 lbs in 7 weeks 13.5 lbs in 1 week before WLS 18 lbs in 6 weeks since WLS and the best of it all is that my glucose level which was high and requiring insulin and lots of meds before surgery has never been better hovering between 4 and 6 [4 to 8 mmol/L (70 to 150 mg/dL)] Also for the first time in half a century I have been logging every bite and every minute of exercise and I average 1300 Cals and 60 mins of exercise a day. Still have a long way to go to make it to my ideal weight but the goal seems attainable for the first time in a long time. Just broke the hunnerd this week (100 Kilos that is, 220 Lbs) Now my next goal is to break the 2 hunnerds 200 lbs that is. Final Goal is 75 Kgs (165 lbs) for a "perfect" BMI of 25.

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I consider the band the biblical knife to my throat :mad: Proverbs 23: 1-3 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee: And put a knife to thy throat, if thou [be] a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties: for they [are] deceitful meat.

A bit new to all this but I seem to have a lucky constitution of steel apparently, well most of the time anyway. I haven't found a real big no no yet and it seems all the forbidden fruits are allowed: bread, rice, deli turkey slices etc BUT twice I have had PB's and one of them a well described EPGSHFLYADV: Excrutiatingly Painful Gagging Sliming Heaving Feels Like You're About to Die Vomitation (suggested replacement for PB, by Strawarts) But it all seems more related to timing and I can't figure it out yet... I don't think it's fast eating or bad chewing as a matter of fact, it starts after 2 bites and comes back well shred ( sorry for the TMI ) But it is usually at supper time and I can't figure if it's too much exercise , too early after next meal or what the...? For example this was my enormous lunch with no problems whatsoever Lunch Olive Oil 3g 27 Cal Butter 3g 22 Cal Egg Whites 1 cup 115 Cal Mushrooms 100 g 22 Cal Turkey Breast Slices 85g 85 Cal Green Onions 40g 6 Cal Garlic 6 g (2 cloves) 9 Cal Parmesan 10g 56 Cal 342 Cal But last night one bite of chicken and shredded broccoli sent me out calling Ralph! One hour later after a bit of yoghurt that same chicken (cold this time) went down just fine. Go Figure! Any help out there? This has only been happening since my fill by the way. Banded March 6th 2007, first fill April 4th, 5cc in a 9cc band The rest of my diet is on http://www.lapbandtalk.com/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=683

this should answer your question give or take a gram or two http://www.lapbandtalk.com/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=683

pretty well the same story here at 3 weeks ... things should improve much after your first fill

7 Days Summary Friday 6th 1535 Cal 105 mins Exercise 840 Cal Saturday 7th 1215 Cal 60 mins Exercise 600 Cal Sunday 8th 1553 Cal 60 mins Exercise 640 Cal Monday 9th 1263 Cal 0 mins (light walk) Tuesday 10th 920 Cal 75 min Exercise 500 Cal Wedn 11th 1273 Cal 90 min Exercise 800 Cal Thursday 12th 1346 Cal 55 min Exercise 584 Cal Average 1300 Cal 55 min Exercise 566 Cal

7 Days Summary Friday 6th 1535 Cal 105 mins Exercise 840 Cal Saturday 7th 1215 Cal 60 mins Exercise 600 Cal Sunday 8th 1553 Cal 60 mins Exercise 640 Cal Monday 9th 1263 Cal 0 mins (light walk) Tuesday 10th 920 Cal 75 min Exercise 500 Cal Wedn 11th 1273 Cal 90 min Exercise 800 Cal Thursday 12th 1346 Cal 55 min Exercise 584 Cal Average 1300 Cal 55 min Exercise 566 Cal

I have recently started to log all my calories and exercises. Interesting new experience at 51 years old. If anyone is interested in a diet sample from a month old bandster you can check my journal Banded March 6th, 2007 First Fill April 4th, 2007 http://www.lapbandtalk.com/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=683

For anyone reading this I am a 51 year old male currently weighing 100 Kgs (220 lbs) My Metabolic Rate was previously slowed down by diabetes and a dysfunctional thyroid but I think it is only slowed down these days (by 10% I hear) by my necessary taking of beta blockers, My info comes from different sources including CalorieKing and Nutrition Data.com

For anyone reading this I am a 51 year old male currently weighing 100 Kgs (220 lbs) My Metabolic Rate was previously slowed down by diabetes and a dysfunctional thyroid but I think it is only slowed down these days (by 10% I hear) by my necessary taking of beta blockers, My info comes from different sources including CalorieKing and Nutrition Data.com

Here is a new log kind of edited but did not come out as good as my original document which I can't seem to paste properly here anyway. All this to say that this new and improved habit is quite instructive and challenging and interesting. It also helps for balance and reasoning I find, i.e. Yes I want 2 eggs this morning Yes I had a very hard work out yesterday and I need and deserve them BUT in order to keep my meals around the 300 Calories mark I will have to cut my cottage cheese to 50 g this morning too etc Or Wow for the calories of that relish and dijon I could have had another can of tuna... but mind you with the band one NEEDS the relish and dijon or something to wash that tuna down :puke: Or I thought oat bran was empty calories a bit like saw dust... Or hmmmmm no wonder I plateaued when I was adding two or 3 rounded tablespoons of "Healthy" Peanut Butter to my banana mix Plus it makes one accountable and I can't say I eat like a bird and still gain weight because it is all recorded. Anyway from an arithmetical point of view it sure makes a lot of sense.

Here is a new log kind of edited but did not come out as good as my original document which I can't seem to paste properly here anyway. All this to say that this new and improved habit is quite instructive and challenging and interesting. It also helps for balance and reasoning I find, i.e. Yes I want 2 eggs this morning Yes I had a very hard work out yesterday and I need and deserve them BUT in order to keep my meals around the 300 Calories mark I will have to cut my cottage cheese to 50 g this morning too etc Or Wow for the calories of that relish and dijon I could have had another can of tuna... but mind you with the band one NEEDS the relish and dijon or something to wash that tuna down Or I thought oat bran was empty calories a bit like saw dust... Or hmmmmm no wonder I plateaued when I was adding two or 3 rounded tablespoons of "Healthy" Peanut Butter to my banana mix Plus it makes one accountable and I can't say I eat like a bird and still gain weight because it is all recorded. Anyway from an arithmetical point of view it sure makes a lot of sense.

Hmmmm! This did not come out as wanted and expected. T'will have to be worked on tomorrow!

Hmmmm! This did not come out as wanted and expected. T'will have to be worked on tomorrow! :puke:

This has been a very interesting experience so far even though it is only a few days old. In 51 years of life I have never ever logged and counted my calories but the band has change my lifestyle and my mind I guess. Anyone feel free to correct this as my data is guesses at best. But there has been a few lessons and a few things learned already. Stardate Log 7262.7 Or for you humans 060407 well Australian Humans anyway American Humans might have it 040607. Not sure how to do this yet but here it goes. 060407 Brekky 220 ml skim milk 90 cal 1 Optifast 152 cal Whey protein 13 g 49 cal Total 291 cal 30 mins of biking (8km) (340 cal) Morning tea 1 toast 35g 98 cal 1 banana (100g) 90 cal 1 Tbsp PB (20g) 117 cal Total 305 cal 75 mins Walking (6.6 km) 500 cals Lasagna 244 g 344 cal Tuna 70 g 74 cal Total 418 cal 1014 cal   Shark 90 g 130 cal Brussels Sprouts ½ cup 28 cal Olives 4 15 cal Blueberries 50 g 25 cal Yogurt 3 tbsp 35 cal 233 cal 1247 cal 1 Toast 98 cal 1 Banana 90 cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 cal 288 Cal 1535 Cal Saturday 7 April 7, 2007 Brekky Chili 100g 102 cal 1 egg 80 cal 182 cal Lunch Chili 100g 102 Cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 1 Toast 98 Cal 300 Cal 482 Cal 35 min Biking (10.1km) 400 Cal   Afternoon tea 1 toast 35g 98 cal 1 banana (100g) 90 cal 188 cal 670 Cal Tea MeatLoaf 158g 289 Cal Carrots 66g 24 Cal Spinach 75 g 9 Cal Pineapple 73 g 45 Cal 367 Cal 1037 Cal Walking 25 min 2.5 km 200 Cal Evening Tea ½ cup Muesli 155 Cal 3 tbsp Skim Milk 15 Cal 100 ml V8 1 8 Cal 178 Cal 1215 Cal Stardate Log 7262.7 April 8, 2007 Breakfast Chili 100g 102 Cal Cottage Cheese 50g 50 Cal 1 Toast 98 Cal 1 egg 80 cal 330 Cal 30 mins of biking (7 km) (340 cal) Morning Tea Whey Protein 36g 138 Cal 1 banana (100g) 90 cal Milk 125 ml 45 Cal 273 Cal 603 Cal Lunch MeatLoaf 230g 289 Cal Carrots, green onions Mushrooms, V8 (100ml) 50 cal Tomato 1 (80g) 17 cal 356 Cal 959 Cal Tea Moroccan Lentil Soup 1 ½ cup 146 Cal Prawns 100g 100 Cal Rice Basmati 100g 100 Cal 346 Cal 1305 Cal Walking 30 min 3 km 300 Cal Evening Tea 1 Toast 98 Cal Peanut Butter 10g 60 Cal 1 banana (100g) 90 Cal 248 Cal 1553 Cal 3 Days Summary Friday 6th 1535 Cal 105 mins Exercise 840 Cal Saturday 7th 1215 Cal 60 mins Exercise 600 Cal Sunday 8th 1553 Cal 60 mins Exercise 640 Cal April 9, 2007 Breakfast Chili 70g 70 Cal Cottage Cheese 70g 70 Cal 1 Toast 98 Cal 1 egg 80 Cal 318 Cal Lunch Potato Salad 160 g 160 Cal Burger 100g 200 Cal Ritz Crackers 16g 79 Cal 439 Cal 757 Cal Tea Moroccan Lentil Soup 1 ½ cup 146 Cal Prawns 100g 100 Cal Rice Basmati 100g 100 Cal 346 Cal 1103 Cal Ritz Crackers 16g 80 Cal M & M’s 16g 80 Cal 160 Cal 1263 Cal Note: M & M and Ritz Crackers 5 Cal per g PB 6 cal per g   Tuesday, April 10, 2007 Brekky 1 toast 35g 98 cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 1 egg 80 Cal 278 Cal 75 mins Walking (5.5 km) 500 Cal Average Pulse 93 Morning Tea Pineapple 73 g 45 Cal 323 Cal Lunch Hamburger 115 g 230 Cal Mor. Lentil Soup 1 ½ cup 146 Cal 376 Cal 699 Cal Coffee with ½ cup of skim milk 43 Cal 742 Cal *Note: Coffee with ½ of skim milk and 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar (60g) = 103 Cal Tea 1 toast 35g 98 Cal 1 egg 60g 80 Cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 278 Cal 920 Cal   Wednesday, April 11, 2007 Brekky 1 toast 35g 98 Cal Philadelphia XLite 10g 12 Cal 1 egg 60g 80 Cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 290 Cal Lunch 2 toasts 77g 196 Cal Philadelphia XLite 25g 31 Cal Turkey Breast Slices 100g 100 Cal 327 Cal 617 Cal AP 102 Walking Treadmill 30 min 3km 340 Cal Work Out 1 hour 460 Cal 800 Cal Afternoon Tea 1 Optifast 152 cal Whey Protein 36g 138 Cal 290 Cal 907 Cal Tea Barramundi 138 g 152 Cal Veggies 100g 60 Cal (corn, carrots, spinach) Butter 4g 29 Cal Yoghurt 100g 100 Cal 341 Cal 1248 Cal 4 Prunes 25 Cal 1273 Cal Thursday, April 12, 2007 Brekky Eggs 2 160 Cal (12.6g Prot) Toast 1 98 Cal Cottage 50g 50 Cal 308 Cal 25 min Biking (5.5Km) 284 Cal Orange Juice 200 ml 76 Cal Whey Protein 36g 138 Cal Banana 68g 60 Cal Oat Bran 20g 49 Cal 323 Cal 631 Cal Walking 30 min Beach 300 Cal Lunch Tuna 60 g 60 Cal Relish 20g 30 Cal Dijon 20 g 30 Cal Tomato 115g 21 Cal Bread 1 ½ slice 35g ea 147 Cal 288 Cal 919 Cal Tea Hoki 100g 68 Cal Prawns 4 (40g) 40 Cal Patak’s Korma Sauce 40 Cal Rice Basmati 100g 100 Cal 248 Cal 1167 Cal Evening Tea Whey Protein 18g 69 Cal Banana 68g 60 Cal Yoghurt 50g 50 Cal 179 Cal 1346 Cal

This has been a very interesting experience so far even though it is only a few days old. In 51 years of life I have never ever logged and counted my calories but the band has change my lifestyle and my mind I guess. Anyone feel free to correct this as my data is guesses at best. But there has been a few lessons and a few things learned already. Stardate Log 7262.7 Or for you humans 060407 well Australian Humans anyway American Humans might have it 040607. Not sure how to do this yet but here it goes. 060407 Brekky 220 ml skim milk 90 cal 1 Optifast 152 cal Whey protein 13 g 49 cal Total 291 cal 30 mins of biking (8km) (340 cal) Morning tea 1 toast 35g 98 cal 1 banana (100g) 90 cal 1 Tbsp PB (20g) 117 cal Total 305 cal 75 mins Walking (6.6 km) 500 cals Lasagna 244 g 344 cal Tuna 70 g 74 cal Total 418 cal 1014 cal   Shark 90 g 130 cal Brussels Sprouts ½ cup 28 cal Olives 4 15 cal Blueberries 50 g 25 cal Yogurt 3 tbsp 35 cal 233 cal 1247 cal 1 Toast 98 cal 1 Banana 90 cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 cal 288 Cal 1535 Cal Saturday 7 April 7, 2007 Brekky Chili 100g 102 cal 1 egg 80 cal 182 cal Lunch Chili 100g 102 Cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 1 Toast 98 Cal 300 Cal 482 Cal 35 min Biking (10.1km) 400 Cal   Afternoon tea 1 toast 35g 98 cal 1 banana (100g) 90 cal 188 cal 670 Cal Tea MeatLoaf 158g 289 Cal Carrots 66g 24 Cal Spinach 75 g 9 Cal Pineapple 73 g 45 Cal 367 Cal 1037 Cal Walking 25 min 2.5 km 200 Cal Evening Tea ½ cup Muesli 155 Cal 3 tbsp Skim Milk 15 Cal 100 ml V8 1 8 Cal 178 Cal 1215 Cal Stardate Log 7262.7 April 8, 2007 Breakfast Chili 100g 102 Cal Cottage Cheese 50g 50 Cal 1 Toast 98 Cal 1 egg 80 cal 330 Cal 30 mins of biking (7 km) (340 cal) Morning Tea Whey Protein 36g 138 Cal 1 banana (100g) 90 cal Milk 125 ml 45 Cal 273 Cal 603 Cal Lunch MeatLoaf 230g 289 Cal Carrots, green onions Mushrooms, V8 (100ml) 50 cal Tomato 1 (80g) 17 cal 356 Cal 959 Cal Tea Moroccan Lentil Soup 1 ½ cup 146 Cal Prawns 100g 100 Cal Rice Basmati 100g 100 Cal 346 Cal 1305 Cal Walking 30 min 3 km 300 Cal Evening Tea 1 Toast 98 Cal Peanut Butter 10g 60 Cal 1 banana (100g) 90 Cal 248 Cal 1553 Cal 3 Days Summary Friday 6th 1535 Cal 105 mins Exercise 840 Cal Saturday 7th 1215 Cal 60 mins Exercise 600 Cal Sunday 8th 1553 Cal 60 mins Exercise 640 Cal April 9, 2007 Breakfast Chili 70g 70 Cal Cottage Cheese 70g 70 Cal 1 Toast 98 Cal 1 egg 80 Cal 318 Cal Lunch Potato Salad 160 g 160 Cal Burger 100g 200 Cal Ritz Crackers 16g 79 Cal 439 Cal 757 Cal Tea Moroccan Lentil Soup 1 ½ cup 146 Cal Prawns 100g 100 Cal Rice Basmati 100g 100 Cal 346 Cal 1103 Cal Ritz Crackers 16g 80 Cal M & M’s 16g 80 Cal 160 Cal 1263 Cal Note: M & M and Ritz Crackers 5 Cal per g PB 6 cal per g   Tuesday, April 10, 2007 Brekky 1 toast 35g 98 cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 1 egg 80 Cal 278 Cal 75 mins Walking (5.5 km) 500 Cal Average Pulse 93 Morning Tea Pineapple 73 g 45 Cal 323 Cal Lunch Hamburger 115 g 230 Cal Mor. Lentil Soup 1 ½ cup 146 Cal 376 Cal 699 Cal Coffee with ½ cup of skim milk 43 Cal 742 Cal *Note: Coffee with ½ of skim milk and 2 rounded teaspoons of sugar (60g) = 103 Cal Tea 1 toast 35g 98 Cal 1 egg 60g 80 Cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 278 Cal 920 Cal   Wednesday, April 11, 2007 Brekky 1 toast 35g 98 Cal Philadelphia XLite 10g 12 Cal 1 egg 60g 80 Cal Cottage Cheese 100g 100 Cal 290 Cal Lunch 2 toasts 77g 196 Cal Philadelphia XLite 25g 31 Cal Turkey Breast Slices 100g 100 Cal 327 Cal 617 Cal AP 102 Walking Treadmill 30 min 3km 340 Cal Work Out 1 hour 460 Cal 800 Cal Afternoon Tea 1 Optifast 152 cal Whey Protein 36g 138 Cal 290 Cal 907 Cal Tea Barramundi 138 g 152 Cal Veggies 100g 60 Cal (corn, carrots, spinach) Butter 4g 29 Cal Yoghurt 100g 100 Cal 341 Cal 1248 Cal 4 Prunes 25 Cal 1273 Cal Thursday, April 12, 2007 Brekky Eggs 2 160 Cal (12.6g Prot) Toast 1 98 Cal Cottage 50g 50 Cal 308 Cal 25 min Biking (5.5Km) 284 Cal Orange Juice 200 ml 76 Cal Whey Protein 36g 138 Cal Banana 68g 60 Cal Oat Bran 20g 49 Cal 323 Cal 631 Cal Walking 30 min Beach 300 Cal Lunch Tuna 60 g 60 Cal Relish 20g 30 Cal Dijon 20 g 30 Cal Tomato 115g 21 Cal Bread 1 ½ slice 35g ea 147 Cal 288 Cal 919 Cal Tea Hoki 100g 68 Cal Prawns 4 (40g) 40 Cal Patak’s Korma Sauce 40 Cal Rice Basmati 100g 100 Cal 248 Cal 1167 Cal Evening Tea Whey Protein 18g 69 Cal Banana 68g 60 Cal Yoghurt 50g 50 Cal 179 Cal 1346 Cal