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That's kinda my take on it. They can have surgery, eat anything they want, and lose weight anyway. But when they are telling you how great the surgery is they do kinda forget to mention your new body odor, Sewer-Delight. If they are not losing weight they will tell the person not losing to go eat a couple of big macs, or extra fried chicken. They need fat since they don't absorb much. Surgical Alli anyone? ;o) I swear, I have sincerely wondered something before. I wonder if DS causes emotional problems or if a certain personality type is drawn to that procedure. I have to admit, I've been pushing their buttons on that thread and not many are taking the bait. Usually the go get their little friends and start attacking but not this time. I think it's the wrong forum to pick on them. They like to fight in the band forum or the DS forum, this is the revision forum.

Since you are in KCMO did you check out Dr. Malley for aftercare issues? I hear he sees Mexican banded patients. I've heard both good and bad about him. Not sure where the truth is.

Yep, the 3rd one is the little gem I found the other day that I was referring to. I can't believe they take vet meds for stink. Sheesh.... The potential surgery war thread, check it out: Scheduled for Lap-Band over RNY Revision! Now I have Q's!

I am very sorry that you didn't have a good experience but to be honest, you didn't go to one of the better surgeons so you didn't do your research, and you didn't find aftercare before you had surgery despite all the warnings on this forum. I do hope you feel better soon.

Thanks, my little baby Shih Tzu is pretty darn cute! I'll check my email tonight!! I thought the same thing, she looks large-ish. Maybe she hasn't had surgery yet? That's why I asked her if she had her DS yet.

Anyone wanna see a surgery war? This one will likely end up being just that. We'll see, but in the meantime a future DSer justifies the smell: Scheduled for Lap-Band over RNY Revision! Now I have Q's! People... I guess it really does take all kinds.

There have been a few times I see some advertisement to cover up stinky and I think of this thread. I found another treasure on the OH DS board, I should have posted it. I'll try to find it. ;o)

Soooo, it is not suggested that the vets follow their doc's advice? ;o)

I am a naturally lazy person at heart so I am going to copy and paste something I wrote on a different board (OH) for someone that asked for a butt kicking. I mean, she really did, she asked for a butt kicking specifically from me and one other person, so consider that as you read. ;o) >>I'm going to get hammered for writing this but that has never stopped me before. ;o) You know these people that eat pizza and tacos a few days after surgery and they come to the boards asking if they just messed up? You know those people that pat them on the head, tell them it's okay, and to "try" to do better tomorrow? Yeah, I'm not one of those people. I tell them to knock it off, they are risking their band and why? For a lousy taco?? Are they serious? I don't suggest they TRY to do better the next day, I tell them to DO better right now. I think we often times don't give ourselves enough credit. We think we are weak willed and powerless over the world. That simply isn't true. We have been living a life of fat for many years. You tell me the weak willed and powerless can do that, I won't believe you. Being fat in today's society is no easy task. It's really damned hard. Yet we survive it and if we can survive that, we can survive passing up a donut. Let's face it, it is much easier to pass up a donut than it is to have to buy two airlines seats because our butts are too big for one seat. It's much easier to pass up a single donut than it is to face ourselves in the mirror of Lane Giant after realizing we are yet... a bigger size than the last time we were there. We face humiliation and embarrassment every single day just due to our size. I think sometimes we tend to get used to it and forget that humiliation and embarrassment are not normal and a part of life. We also pretend it does not hurt as much as it does. I'm not trying to be a skank about this but you know, WLS is our last shot at WL. This is a big deal, we have choices and too many times we are all making the wrong ones. I don't eat a lot of junk because I don't need it. Neither do you. I disagree with those that say ANYTHING in moderation is okay. The reason I disagree is because ALL of us did not get fat because we can do moderation well. With a band or any WLS our caloric intake is cut drastically and we need every calorie for food we actually need and use. The only thing cake, pasta, or crap food will do for your body is make it more plump. This is a lifestyle change and a lifestyle change does not mean eating the same load of crap but just less of it, that means overhauling your diet and eating food that your body needs and does something positive for it. What "value" does Chocolate cake have for your body? So does this mean that you can never have a piece of birthday cake again? Of course not. It means that eating junk on a regular basis serves no value. We don't know what moderation is so we have to go searching for it. Moderation does not mean limiting ourselves to crap food just one time daily or one time weekly, it means more along the lines of on birthdays, special occasions. When we "plan" on eating junk weekly, what does that make our thinking? That means we are *still* planning our lives around food and poor choices. Thin people don't set out to plan on when they will eat a load of crap, they don't even think about it until the birthday party or social meeting is there staring them in the face. Yet we fatties actually plan a date and time to eat bad food. See the difference in thinking between a fat person and a normal size person? The lifestyle change is not planning on WHEN we will have loads of crap food, lifestyle change means actually going out there and living what we claim we want. Life as a normal size person. If you can face the humiliation of being obese in society, can you honestly sit there and tell yourself that passing up junk food is harder than being the fat girl walking into a room where being MO is socially unacceptable? I mean, I think there comes a time when we have to put things in their proper perspective and this is one of those times. Next time you want junk food get real and get honest with yourself. Get a photo of that food item and a photo of a person that is the size you want to be. Which do you want more, do you want the cake more than you want to be thin and healthy? Be verrry honest with yourself. If you prefer the cake over thin then just go for it and have the darn band removed. But I'll bet you'd rather have thin over a piece of cake when you really get honest with yourself. It's all about perspective and self awareness of what you want out of this life. We have a choice, and it IS a choice. We can be fat or we can be thin. With a band thin IS within grasp. The thing about us fat folks is that traditional diet and exercise is too hard, we just can't do it. We cannot lose and maintain at a normal size weight. Call it a lack of self control, call it anything you want. I'll cop to it, I'll be one to stand right up there and admit that I can't do it. But with a band it is still hard but it is the kind of hard WE can do, OUR population. Losing weight with a band is the kind of hard we can do but without a band, nope... we can't do it. Sometimes, maybe often times, maybe 20x a day when we are justifying more grazing behaviors and opening the frig to see what unnecessary food is in there, there comes a time when you just have to tell yourself no. We tell our children "no" daily. No, you can't play with razor blades in the middle of a busy street. No, you can't eat rat poison. No, you can't fail to look both ways when crossing a street. No, you can't do drugs. No, you can't go out with that drug abuser who just got out of juvvy. Sometimes we have to tell ourselves no as well. If you are like me, not sure you are, but if you are like me I can't stop at one Frito, or one bite of this or that. For me it is all or none. If I eat white carbs I can't quit. I lose self control. If I stay away from them completely I have no problem. The more I eat the more I crave. I am a person that wanted bread so bad about 3 months after banding I actually broke into the bread crumbs I use for cooking and ate the whole can. Then I started in on dry stuffing mix. It wasn't even something that tasted good (pretty rank, actually) but I couldn't stand the carb cravings anymore. That was my moment when I realized when and how I lose self control. So I avoid those situations. You can come over to my house right now and look through my house. You won't find any flour, pasta, bread, Fritos, or other foods that are my triggers. There are no bread crumbs, stuffing mix, cake mixes, cookie mixes... none of it. I don't even keep it in the house. There is not a person that has ever once been in my home that even needs those foods. My husband doesn't need them and he doesn't get them if he is here. Why would your family NEED cakes, cookies, etc? We are not punishing our family members by denying them food habits WE have, it really is okay if you don't load your cupboards full of crap your kids do not need. I think that is another mindset we have to change. I've seen people post on these very boards that they can't pass up the cookies in the cupboard but they can't punish their children by not having cookies in the house. Since when it is a punishment to decline to feed a growing child cookies to the point you can't have a day without them in your home? Exercise... you know, we have physical and emotional reasons for overeating. Those issues we have to overcome and find ways to deal with them. But exercise? Nahhh, we have no excuse. That is just plain lazy behavior. You don't like exercise? Neither do I. But it's like cleaning the toilet. Who DOES like to do it? We do it because we have to. It's just a responsibility. We are all great at justifying eating too much and not exercising but the reality comes down to sheer lazy behaviors. If you can't run then power walk. If you can't power walk then walk. If you can't walk then do chair exercises. We have the energy to get up and run to the frig 20 times a day yet we can't find the time nor the motivation to do the SAME walking outside and away from food. How does that work? ;o) There are people who LOVE exercise, zog bless their little hearts! It's like a transfer addiction. They go from eating to exercising. They love it. Personally, I think they are sick and twisted human beings. ;o) I exercise but I hate it. Never have enjoyed it, not even a little. The person who invented weight resistance cannot possibly be anything but a lover of S&M. They should be shot. But you know what? It really really works. The motivation for me was not busting my butt on a treadmill when I would have much preferred doing my nails. The motivation was that the more I exercised the more weight I lost. THAT was my addiction, losing weight and getting thin. The more you lose the more motivation you get. What if you do this, just for ONE week... one week only. Cut out ALL white carbs. Yep, you'll be climbing the walls, you'll be dealing with head hunger full force. Every single TV commercial for food will be calling your name. You'll cus and swear at me and everyone else that is around you in real time or the boards. Start exercising. Even ten minutes of brisk walking. Work up a sweat, bust your butt. Just 10 minutes. That's nothing, that is the same as a couple of TV commercials. That is about the same amount of time to read a single thread on OH. Just take 10 simple minutes and go out for a hard walk. Then you are done exercising for the day. Honestly, 10 minutes is NOTHING. We have 144 10 minute blocks in a day, it really is nothing. Then tomorrow do 11 minutes. And yes, time it from the time your walk is a brisk one, not when you start thinking it's time to go outside for your walk. When your pace is up to brisk then start timing. Daily add a single minute to it. Push yourself to do better each day, just a single minute added. So for a week eat what you want, don't count calories, don't count fat grams. Don't worry about calories in the least. Eat what you want but do limit WHITE carbs to 20 a day. I'm just talking for a week. Do the 10 minutes of exercise while adding one minute daily. See what that does for you. You want 20 chicken breasts? Eat them. You want zucchini, yellow squash, any other carbs except fruit? Eat them. Lots of them. Don't even count carbs from veggies. Just count white carbs and limit those drastically to 20gms daily. The idea here is not to get you into ketosis, the idea is to get you eating the right carbs. Have unlimited VEGGIE carbs. You'll poop like a champ too. ;o) I'll bet you that you lose weight. Then as the motivation kicks in and the stomach hunger dies down you will be able to cut those 20 chicken breasts down to 10. Then 5, then 1 daily. Understand what is head hunger and what is true stomach hunger. Just focus on white carbs and minimal exercise. I'll bet you it works. If you can live the life and frustration as a fat person, you can do this. Being fat is MUCH harder than better food choices. Again, it's all perspective. What about your fill level? Are you at good restricton? If not, get thy butt to the doc and take care of it. There, that's yer' butt kicking. ;o) Just remember, you CAN do this, you have survived much much harder as a fat person and you have survived a life that is no walk in the park. If you can survive fat life you can easily survive the above plan for the next week. And BTW, this means start the whole plan tomorrow, not on Sunday at the beginning of the week. If you have already eaten a load of carbs today you will be hungry for the rest of the day. It's a blood sugar thing. So start tomorrow and keep remembering, you can do this.<<

I have never heard anything negative about Martinez, only glowing reports. I'm glad he's still there.

I noticed the same. Thank you for pointing it out.

Ohhhh, I have no idea! I can't use their stupid search feature for anything! I'd start a new thread on the band boards and ask if anyone knows the names of the people and try to find them that way.

I'm not sure I see the common denominator here, a sore throat and erosion? What would one have to do with the other? Usually with erosion the symptoms are a loss of restriction and various restriction issues. A sore throat sounds like a good old fashioned sore throat.

I don't think I'd ever get rebanded. I lost my band due to complications (not a slip) and I revised to a sleeve. A MUCH easier journey. Thing is, when you slip and surgically repair the slip the adhesions are not as strong as they were the first time around and you are at more risk for another slip.

If your doctor can't tell the difference between fat tissue and stomach tissue, do you really want him doing it again? There were two cases of this happening on OH in the last few months.

It depends on where the leak is and what caused it. Most leaks are from the port or tubing and that is usually caused by the doc poking a hole in it. If your doctor has ever used anything but a huber needle to enter your port, your warranty is void. Have you had a fill under fluoro to see specifically where the leak is coming from?

Port problems are not really anything to freak out over unless it's an infection. What did your doctor say?

I don't care if information is negative or positive, that's what we do here. We share information and exchange experiences. We tell what we know about doctors. I don't give a rats back side about being PC or etiquette, I care that people have the information needed to make good choices in their health care. The OP handled this situation perfectly. He told us what his PCP told him, he did his own research, and he came back to tell us the facts. He did a good job and I wish more would do the same.

Because this isn't even for three months. It's a month. It's long term we can't do it. If someone told you the life of your child depended on your doing a post op diet for a month, I'll bet you'd find a way to do it, right? So we do have it within ourselves to do it, we just have to accept that this is how it is. Yeah, people get hungry on the post op diet but how many obese people do you know die of starvation? ;o) I think the issue that concerns me about post op diets (other than the healing issues) is that if someone isn'tf following their doc's instructions two weeks out of surgery, how will they do it long term? This is a lifestyle change and the change happens the day of surgery. It's not easy but I don't think anyone here has promised easy. But if it helps any, it does get easier.

Well, you kinda were acting like you are. Check it out: You are indeed telling her that by disregarding her doctor she'll be fine. Do you suppose there is a reason her doc gives the post op diet that he does? Do you know that since they started slacking on the post op diets in the US slips have more than doubled?

This is the best and most realistic post I have seen in a very long time on this topic. Hear hear! Good job, standing ovation, all that good stuff. ;o)

I had a lot of problems with the band. It did get me to goal and then some. I worked really hard for my goal weight but after I hit goal I had complications and had to have it removed. I knew that removing my band meant weight gain so I revised to a sleeve for maintenance. I had esophageal spasms, esophageal motility issues, stoma spasms, reflux, periodic gastritis, port pain from rubbing against my jeans, etc. I finally threw in the towel and revised.

Is that the premix? If so, I don't care for that. However, I did just get an email back from EAS saying that the 5# containers are discontinued and Target has full rights to the strawberry flavor EAS powder. So at least it's not gone forever. Of course, this is after I just spent $56 on a 5# container of chocolate about 30 minutes ago. :smile:/ Oh well, maybe I'll like the Chocolate, I don't care for that premix either but I liked the strawberry powder. Maybe I'll like the Chocolate powder too. Thanks!!

EAS 100% Whey Protein Strawberry is a fav of mine and EAS just discontinued it. Anyone use a Strawberry protein shake (low carb) that they can suggest? Powder, not premix. I don't care for the premix products.

I'm not sure I know what you mean, general sleeve info? Revision info? Little experiences here and there? Anything specific you want to know? I LOVE my sleeve, I absolutely love it. I was afraid to do it for a long time, I was afraid it would make my problems permanent. Instead it has been the very best thing I have done in a very long time!