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Ahhhhh, certification! Those who are certified are NOT medical professionals, my guess is you are a nursing asst. (six weeks of education) or a Certified medical assistant, 9 months of education. You want others certified before writing so it's my guess you are only certified vs. licensed. You seem to have a real problem with MacMadame. Have you noticed that you are the ONLY one that has a problem with M? You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You understand basics but what you don't understand is why those basics are there. Such as your misunderstanding about restriction at the time of surgery. What state are you certified in and on what level? You do keep dodging this question regardless of how many times people ask.

Go back and talk to your boss. You didn't get the whole story, you are not correct. The Inamed band needs saline NOT for restriction but to make it fit around the stomach. It is quite large and no doctor in their right mind would give much restriction off the bat. There is enough saline to make the band fit around each individual stomach. You don't want restriction coming out of surgery, too much chance of an overfill with swelling that will continue to increase for a few days after surgery. Again, I really think you should just get your boss to post for you so that we don't have to keep correcting you and explaining to you how your band works.

Again, what is your license? Nursing assistant? PCT? CMA? Head floor cleaner? What area do you hold a license? Surely you HAVE an advanced license to be spewing the pooh that you spew, right?

You clearly do not understand the Inamed/Allergan agenda. Look, I happen to prefer the Allergan band. I wouldn't ever get another band of any brand but if I did it would be Allergan. That doesn't mean that smarmy, unethical, creepy company puts out a bad band. But to infer J&J has an agenda without mentioning the crappy things Allergan does is misleading. Something you do a great deal of yourself. You know what you sound like? You sound like someone who parrots a very arrogant and egotistical doctor. You don't have enough information to be taken seriously by an actual medical professional but you have sure learned the lingo. Perhaps you can bring your boss over and post for you. At least we can get the arrogance straight from the source. Along with a little better (balanced) information.

Interesting. Considering it has never been determined specifically what causes erosion I find it fascinating that you know, along with a band manufacturer, what causes erosion. I also find it interesting that one doctor can have a 20% erosion stat and another can have a 0.005% erosion stat using the same bands. New and unproven (long term) technology is not necessarily superior to tried and true technology. It means the current people are guinea pigs. Nothing more. I personally don't believe erosion (with the US FDA approved bands) is due to the band. I think the majority of time it has to do with the doctor. Something the doctor is doing is causing erosion. Placing a band that is too small, injuring the stomach during banding, perhaps even the type of sterilization for surgical instruments. But considering NOBODY knows what causes erosion for you to make your silly claims makes you look... well, silly.

I beg to differ, MacMadame knows full well what she is talking about. She's probably one of the most informed people on this board posting. Certainly more informed that you are. Now, you suggest in this thread that nobody should listen to people on this board. Why in the world should anyone listen to you? Where did you get your MD? What state are you licensed as a surgeon?

Oh Mindy, it came off exactly as your intent. Ignore anyone that claims otherwise.

LOL! Mindy Uppity? Nawww, she's anything but that. It's totally fair for someone to question this considering the band manufacturer is quite clear about the post op diet. Here are the instructions from Allergan: Did you know that since US docs began changing the post op diet slip stats have *more* than doubled? I think Mindy had every justification in the world to clarify her position, don't you?

Well Plain... that's why I wrote "several" cases. It's not like I claimed this is the norm. Considering the number of revisions from band to anything else (just like there are revisions from bypass to band) I don't think "several" cases indicates I was referring to a significant number of people. I don't think we need to be careful when throwing around examples. How many times have you seen it written on LBT that the reason people are getting the band is because it is reversible and when you remove the band your stomach goes back to exactly how it was before surgery? It NEVER goes back exactly how it was before surgery. There is scarring and adhesions and there just isn't anything wrong with letting people know of potential risks. It is possible to have damage done to the stomach from a band where the end result is no revision to anything. It's the staple line that is an issue in a revision. So sleeves, bypass, or DS are out when that happens.

Adrian.... Who is your doctor?

So kinda what you are saying is that you got surgery and now you are starting your research on your procedure type. :smile2:( I honestly wouldn't know where to begin. Go here, start on Page #1 and read for the next 3 days. No potty breaks. ;o) Frequently Asked Questions (NEW!) - Lap Band Surgery and Lap Band Discussion Forum I have to tell you, you are a slip and pouch dilation waiting to happen. I'd be willing to bet money it will happen in the next six months. It is critical that you start reading and don't stop until you have spent at least 40 hours just reading. You have a HUGE amount of information to learn, as does your doctor. The band manufacturers are pretty clear about not doing fills until 4 weeks. Many docs refuse to do them until 6 weeks after surgery.

Agree, agree, and agree.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Yeah, right. ;o)

Oh my..... http://www.lapbandtalk.com/f80/thread-going-sooo-inappropriate-56430/

I know of several cases where people eroded and couldn't get a revision to anything else. They are left with diet and exercise forever.

Yep, I was right. She's a paid spokesperson for bypass: ABC News: Carnie Wilson Keeps the Weight Off by Cooking

I could totally be wrong about this... but wasn't Carnie paid by someone to be the bypass spokesperson type celeb? I don't remember why that sticks in my head.

He filled you two weeks after surgery???? Yikes. And we wonder why slip stats are increasing in the US. OP, I'm not blaming you but your doctor... Grrrrrrrrrrr! Your stomach hadn't even healed from surgery yet. Please make sure you do everything in your power not to get stuck or vomit. Your adhesions haven't even formed yet. Why did he think something was damaged? Why did he need to do the full open?

RNY is theoretically reversible but it is a verrrry difficult procedure to reverse. You have to go into it assuming it cannot be reversed. I fully understand your thinking and see where you are coming from.

Nobody can predict what kinds of problems you might or might not have with banding. You have to look at stats NOT done by band doctors or those who manufacture bands. They all want to look like they are the best of the best and finding studies and stats such as those are difficult at best. There are pros and cons to every single WLS type out there. Personally, I can't honestly say a band is a best option for most. It's the procedure with the lowest weight loss and requires the most effort. There are quite a few places that aren't doing it anymore. Some doctors in the US, a Swedish hospital, the country of Chile will stop doing bands completely, they are going to sleeves and bypass only. According to info posted by Dr. Curry on OH bands show about a 50-60% loss of excess weight. That just isn't enough in my eyes. Better than nothing but with all the work, effort, and surgery it should be better. Now, that's not to say you can't beat the stats with the band, you can. But there are just too many potential complications with a band. You really have to look at your eating habits, your life style, the works when deciding which procedure is best for you.

The OP lives in Vancouver. ;o) They apparently have more options than we do in the US.

Sure does. Even the worst of the worst surgeons aren't passing around that kind of wrong information.

Who is obsessing over TV personalities? I disagree that the world can make you feel any given way. That's just giving others far too much power.

If I had severe diabetes and couldn't get it under control that is about the only time I can imagine getting bypass. Sleeves have the same weight loss as bypass without all the Vitamins, supplements, and risk.

It's the French band. The company claims they have the best band, fewest complications, blah blah blah. However, J&J makes the same claim yet they are having to tweak their own band due to issues. I don't know of any disinterested 3rd party studies to defend any manufacturers claims but if I were to get another band, and I would not, it would likely be the Midband. It is not hard like the Inamed or J&J bands, it feels more like soft rubber. It "looks" like it makes more sense than the rock hard bands. I don't have studies on long term results with the Midband.