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I wonder what is going on. It used to be that nobody mentioned BeL one way or another and now it seems to be mostly one complaint after another. Not enough staff? Too much business? Thoughts?

My first thought is that either one don't have facts or they wouldn't be faith or belief, they'd be fact. Lauren, you said they weren't the same. Thoughts?

Perhaps. But I guess I'm not sure what the difference is.

Very true. I totally agree.

I haven't spent much time over there, I didn't know about this one. Tell Brock all he has to do is put up a fake photo he finds on the internet and he'll be fine. :Banane30:

Agreed. If one has facts they don't need faith. That's my big problem with faith. I want the facts.

Actually, what I wrote was that faith and belief are not necessarily choice. :Banane30:

I don't know if he existed or not, there isn't a shred of proof existing one way or another. But if he did exist I can't believe he was a cult leader of any sort or some historian would have written about him at the time he lived. Nobody did. At the time Christianity came to be they needed a way to control the masses and fear is how they did it. There is a reason only priests knew how to read at that time. It was a wonderful control method. Go out and convert the masses or else. They didn't necessarily share the rest of the bible with people so many came to believe out of fear, or Pascal's Wager. Many still believe due to Pascal's Wager.

Please note, I did preface my comment that it was for me and me alone. I wouldn't base real time issues on that kind of faith. People don't buy stocks with that kind of faith. They don't choose schools for their children on that kind of faith. They don't hire babysitters on that kind of faith. Things that have actual consequences people tend to use critical thinking skills and objective data. That's why for me I wouldn't feel any pride in having that type of faith. And I quite agree with you, pretending to have faith would be pointless. But it still comes down to not being a choice. If I say I have faith, I really don't so that would be a lie. Faith and belief is not a choice. If I claimed I had either I'd be a liar.

No, it's just that my grammar sucked big time in that post! HA!

There were plenty of writers around at the time yet nobody wrote of him. If there was a Christ person why didn't anyone write of the HUGE things he did? Why didn't he write it himself? I'm not so sure Christ claimed he was any of the things people give him credit for. I think people decided to label him and now we have Christianity. I mean, Christianity is not exactly a new concept. It's borrowed and stolen from previous myths from Egypt and Hindus. Virgin birth? Old. Walking on water? Reused. Savior? Borrowed. Feeding the whole lot with a fish? Stolen. Those are all stories from previous myths. Myths that are MUCH older than Christianity. What evidence is there that leads you to believe he existed anymore than the others in his position from previous myths?

It takes a lot more than faith for me to believe that a god always has been or that he created himself. This is a concept that theists don't get about atheists. They have no problem not understanding the big bang theory, they cannot comprehend the possibility of the scientific issues involved, yet they have no problem believing a god has always been around and created the world in seven days. You don't know how the earth created itself and I don't know how a god created himself. See the issue?

For me and me alone, faith isn't something to have pride in. I don't even have faith that a god of any sort exists so I would still be a liar. But according to some within Christianity the dishonesty and pretending to have faith is better than honesty.

I think every newbie there was accused of being someone else and it was usually me, Dee, or Wendell. Of the three of us there is only one that uses sock puppets. It's not me and it's not Wendell. I mean for goodness sakes, LOOK at my posts. Is there *anything* I wouldn't say under this ID? Anything in the world? And under KabukiCoyote on OH is there anything in the world I wouldn't say under that ID? I'm pretty blunt and open, I have no use for a sock puppet. What the heck am I going to say under a sock puppet ID that I wouldn't say under my own? I could not have possibly come down harder on the cheerleaders at OH under Kabuki so the use for a socket puppet would be... what? I take full responsibility and credit for my own posts. I write them and I mean what I write. The one thing I did find amusing over there had to do with the photo issue. I have never had a photo yet I was accused of having a photo and taking it down. Then I was accused of being a sock puppet because I have no photo. Yet Dee had a sock puppet and nobody realized it because she came up with a photo from the internet. If I would have used a fake photo found on line somewhere it would have not been an issue. But I choose to maintain internet privacy and therefore I'm not a real person. There isn't a single fat photo of me anywhere on the internet and there never will be. That's just the way it is and it isn't going to change.

Chelle... I'm telling you, things are different here. People (except Sandy, most here don't like her) are not attacked for who they are or what their opinions are. We disagree, but we don't attack. We attack the ideas but not typically the people. You have to work pretty hard at being attacked around here. We have friends around here but not cliques. Lauren and I happen to not care for Dee but if Dee would have been a friend of mine Lauren might look at me with a raised eyebrow but she wouldn't give a rip who my friends are. The cliques just don't exist. Friendships do, but not groupies. That's why when you made the Wendell comment I had to smile to myself because I do understand the mindset. It's the OH mindset. I swear to you I don't mean that as a slam, just a reality of how I view the situation. You need to spend a little more time over here and see the flip side to the coin so you can see what I'm talking about.

Honestly, I don't know what you are talking about. Did I say you were a loser? Link? I'm drawing a blank on that one.

HA! I never thought about it that way. I like that!

Attacked? What do they think this is? OH? BWAHAHAHAHA (sorry, couldn't resist that one)

Did you see the black bean burger recipe that was posted? It sounded pretty good.

A friend of mine had it done under local and she told me one creepy thing that she just couldn't handle was the sound of the scar tissue being cut. Did that bother you as well? (Scar tissue forms around the tubing and port just like it does around the band)

Once you fill out the on line form at FCUSA then it's too late, the provider has to charge the full rate, so just make sure you don't fill out that form. Good luck!

I don't think anyone has attacked you since you've been here. Did I miss something?

I don't think I have ever encountered anyone that had such a driving need to be right all the time regardless of facts. Sometimes I read her posts and just slowly shake my head.

I was wondering the same thing. After I soak it in "stuff" can it be frozen? It will take me forever to eat one of those things. I was going to use soy sauce, garlic, onion, and maybe Rosemary. I don't really have many spices since I don't cook a lot. Should I be putting pepper in there?

When people are dying those around them tend to tiptoe and walk on eggshells. Honestly, that just encourages more poor behavior on the one dying. Dying people are well aware that their illness is affecting the entire family and that compounds the bad feelings they already have. Honesty, it's the only way to go. Tell him you need to be his little girl again even if it is for a short while. A Dad never quits being a Dad if he was ever one to begin with. There is still part of a Dad in there and maybe you just need to find it again. Just my experience from watching people die for over 20 years. Be honest. If he pisses you off, tell him. You don't have to be confrontational but you don't have to put up with poor behavior either. The paranoia issue... that's rough. There are meds to help that if he'd be willing to try. Nope, I'm the youngest. I bought into the "poor me" attitude for a short while but then I realized it really wasn't benefiting me in the least. I realized that I have learned a great deal from the way I was raised. I can spot someone attempting to manipulate me before they even try. Sometimes I let them and sometimes I don't, but I ALWAYS know when it's coming. I have a certain compassion for addictions (even before my own food issues) and I know it is a lot harder than non addicted people make it out to be. In person I can read a person and know exactly what to say or do. There are some patients I can have a little fun with and tease a bit and there are others I have to be ultra professional. I know within a minute of meeting someone how far I can go. I can see a person's potential even if they can't. I know how far and how hard to push them. I wouldn't have any of that if I wasn't raised exactly as I was. So nope, I wouldn't change a thing about my upbringing.