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I don't feel any different about teachers vs. any other profession. I don't hate teachers.

God told me, that's how I knew it was you.

Yeah, it's Lizrbit. Now I'm positive.

(slowly shaking head) It's just no use. No use at all.

Let me explain this to you in terms you can comprehend. You complained because I responded to you in THIS thread. You said I was stalking you. I explained to you that I am not stalking you, I started this thread and I was the first one to post in it. Then I had to explain to you how message boards work. You started flinging mud so fast that you couldn't even keep up with the conversation. You posted a question about atheism. I responded. No bickering, nothing. That is not stalking you silly girl. Damn, you are more than a bit like Liz.

You got all that from Jacqui's post? Are you serious? Is it a freak'en full moon tonight? Is something in the water? No, it's the band. Is there something freak'ish up with the band lately?

She gets more and more like a bit of Liz as time goes by.

I don't know, I'm getting ALLLL confused again. Now I don't know what I do for a living, I don't know who is posting, I don't know when I'm telling the truth, and now I don't know who I am. Holy crap....

I think it is you. Not quite sure, but I think so. So you are me, right?

Well, yeah. I did. I started the thread, as I tried to explain to you earlier. Please see post #1. Have a couple of drinks again tonight? Seriously, what causes this? You are all over the map. First you are striking out at everyone around you and every concept around you, then you want info on religion, then back to striking out again and now you are trying to tell me I didn't start this thread? Good grief, what is wrong with you? What in the world causes all this drama?

It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack........... Responding to a thread I started and posted in long before your time is not stalking dear. It's how message boards work. I have no cares or concerns about what anyone else posts to you, take it to the author. It's awful when you have to accept consequences for your own behaviors, eh? I thought you were going to leave? Another lie I suppose.

Are you under the impression that atheists have not read the bible? I know more atheists that have read the darn thing cover to cover than I do Christians. I know more atheists that know the bible well including the history of the bible vs. Christians. Christians are typically comfortable having someone explain it to them in church every few Sundays. Atheists tend to read it for themselves. I have, actually I was Christian when I read it and that is one of the biggest reasons I am now atheist. What if you read the Koran? Would you want to convert to that belief? That is what you are saying, right? Not everyone is into faith. Not everyone feels that faith is something to be respected. Would you pick your retirement investments based on the same kind of faith as you have in your religion? Of course not. Many atheists feel that way about faith, period. I don't know that anyone hates the bible, at least I haven't read that. Just because one does not believe in your God that does not mean they hate your God. It's a bit tough to hate something that doesn't exist and that is our perspective. Someone else here wrote the phrase "anti-religion people" or something similar. Atheism does not mean anti-religion. It means lacking a belief in a god. Just because someone does not have the same faith as you or just because they do not believe in your god... that is not the same as hating the same. I agree, it would be foolish to assume the watch put itself together. Can you see why it is foolish to atheists that a god put himself together? I could create a watchmaker that I have "faith" in and assume that since I don't know who put that watch together and someone had to do it, he did. Then I could write a book all about him, give him a name, etc. Does that make it real? Maybe a machine put the watch together. But just because I don't know how the watch was put together doesn't mean I HAVE to have an answer. Maybe "I don't know" is acceptable sometimes vs. coming up with something, anything, calling it faith, and devoting your life to it. As for the bible, many believe it is a good source of guidance but I disagree. I see wayyy too much of a lack of morality, killing sprees, revenge, and assorted nonsense to have a great deal of respect for it. People that were primitive in science and technology wrote it and quite frankly, it's silly from my point of view.

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. It didn't affect my weight loss in the least and it shouldn't if you keep up on meds and blood tests.

Super glue? If you found pus in the wound and you glued it closed, you closed it with bacteria in there. It's a great way to get an infection. Alcohol does not sanitize, it cleans. It only does serious cleaning if you soak something in alcohol for 24 hours. It does not kill bacteria nearly the way people think it does. Peroxide won't do a lot either. That's usually mostly to get dirt and such that is stuck in there. It isn't going to kill off anything except for newly growing tissue. In a hospital setting if there is a need to use peroxide on a healing wound we cut it 50/50 with saline. As you wrote, there isn't a great deal that can be done now with super glue.

He's not going to change technique on your request. I'm still banking that there is a misunderstanding somewhere. It would be kinda like a doctor saying they don't close the skin after surgery for a long incision. Do you really need to request that be done or should that be a given?

Don't get your knickers in a twist, I quoted you. Unless you are unable to read what you wrote yourself, I can't help you. (emphasis my own)

I did pretty much the same thing. I knew I wanted WLS but I didn't want GB. One day I saw an ad for a band and started intensive research. That was November 6th, 06. On December 6, 06 I had surgery. On October 5th, 07 I was at goal. If you know just about everything you can know about banding without actually being banded, you are ready. No reason to wait.

6oz of solid Protein? HA!

I'm kinda hoping you misunderstood him. Is it possible he was explaining that he uses the new technique to suture? The old technique did result in many complications. Actually, it was the Mexican surgeons who perfected the technique to suture it in place due to all the complications. There would be nothing holding the band in place if he doesn't suture your stomach up and over the band. It would just be kinda hanging there with a hope and a prayer it would stay. The more I think about it the more I'll bet you that there was a misunderstanding. The band you refer to is just another band with a couple of small changes, it's still a band that needs to be held in place. The changes made to that band had nothing to do with how it is sutured in place, the changes were completely different. Maybe your doc is better at "doing" the job than he is at "explaining" the job?

Okay, so I promised someone I would do something that I really didn't want to do. But I like this person so I agreed to do it. I had to drive 3.5 hours (which due to weather took more like 5 hours) so I could do my 2 hours of promised 'stuff'. I decided to make a weekend of it. The weather sucks so bad here that there is nothing to do. Works for me. I've been working on a project that should have been done by now but just haven't found the motivation needed. If I come here it so freak'en cold there is nothing to do BUT work on my project. Since I was feeling sorry for myself that I had to do something I didn't wanna do I got a cool hotel room. I actually have my own spa. That sweat your guts out kinda room, jacuzzi, the works! Since I'm SERIOUSLY feeling sorry for myself I got the cool room, a bottle of wine, and the JACUZZI! Put hotter Water than I can tolerate in the jacuzzi (ouch) and my glass of wine and the phone rings. It's just too comfy to answer the phone. Suddenly I realize I have one friend with mega kidney stones she's passing and another with a port infection. I feel guilty and start to get out of the jacuzzi to answer the damn phone. I couldn't! I realized that between the mega burning hot water that still hurts and the glass of wine, I have verrry low blood pressure. I still try to get to the phone and instead I just sit on the spa floor contemplating what I should do. So I did as any good friend. Got back in the jacuzzi and called the kidney stone person back an hour later. I'm such a loser... but a really seriously content and comfy loser. I also realized that fat really does float. I was pretty proud of myself for reaching my goal. My doc says another 10lbs. I get it, I really do. About 10lbs of fat floated to the top while my bones stayed under water. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. However, my boobs floated too. HA~ Best braless boobs I've had since my weight loss.

See?? See what I mean?

I think fat people tend to stick together in a sense. We defend one another, we stick up for one another, we relate to one another. We want EVERYONE to experience true and forever weight loss. We don't want weight loss for ourselves in a selfish way by saying we ONLY want it for ourselves, the unique thing we seem to share is that we want it for EVERYONE. Personally, I want the whole whole banded, even the skinny people so they never get fat. But there is a thing about the honeymoon stage. I think it is an important part in WLS, an important part of the journey. But it does seem to fade a bit when reality kicks in. The research part, the insurance BS... not the same. It has nothing to do with the honeymoon stage. I suspect that pretty soon you'll go through the stage of advertising for your doc. After all, he made this possible!! He changed your life forever and in a positive way and you want everyone to experience the same thing you have, a SAFE and effective surgery. I think we all pretty well go through that stage too. With time you realize that your doc merely knows how to wrap a band around your stomach, not rocket science. And you realize that lots of docs are quite good and they wrap bands around stomachs well too. That was an eye opener for me in the beginning. It's easy for me to sit here and look back and see you where I was a year ago. It's a completely different story to expect you to see yourself a year from now experiencing what I am. You know, I have to tell you. When you get to goal you are a newbie ALL over again. You see a newbie doing something really stupid, something that could risk their band and you are all over them like stink on pooh because you are ANGRY that they are not taking full advantage of such a fantastic opportunity. They could trash their opportunity because they can't see the value in GOAL! I am a newbie in the honeymoon stage too. But mine is an "at goal" newbie. It's the same thing as what you are going through but today I can see it much more clearly than I could in the beginning. I don't know, not sure I am explaining my thoughts well on this one. Suffice it to say, I totally understand where you are coming from as I am experiencing it again at my own stage in this journey. I look at people like Jacquie or Chickie and I know they have to read my posts sometimes and roll their eyes hoping I'll complete this stage soon. However, they are tactful enough not to say so. Point being, I get it. I totally understand your feelings right now. They are good, keep the spirit and keep the attitude.

Actually, I probably would not want a sleeve if I was doing it a year ago. But today, the technique is different somehow. Not sure I understand the details just yet but a year ago they were saving a different part of the stomach and it would stretch like a bypass pouch and the patient was SOL. Today they save a more non-elastic portion of the stomach and it does not stretch out of place like it used to. However, not all surgeons use the newer technique. I don't really mind the food limitations because I've learned to work with it. And it is better since I started taking Luvox. It's the embarrassment factor. Went out to dinner with some folks tonight (actually, it was my band surgeon. He did his first ever seminar and it was in AZ so many of us went for support purposes and many of us went to dinner afterwards) and I ordered chicken. Sure enough, I got stuck. Excused myself to go to the bathroom and just as I was leaning over the toilet to barf his nurse walked in the bathroom. It's embarrassing, I hate going out in public to restaurants. I hate going to friend's houses for dinner. I hate eating in public because I never know when it is going to happen. If I never went out in public I'm not sure I'd care as much. Honestly, I don't know how in the heck I have never slipped. In the beginning all I did was barf. I swear my surgeon must have used sutures, epoxy, Elmers Glue, staples, and paper clips to hold my band in place. I've learned to deal with it but I'm still sick of it. Of course, since I was embarrassed tonight at dinner I'm still copping an attitude about my band too.

No man could bring himself to advertise it either. I'm still shocked that they advertise products for limp nu-nus.

So with that kind of logic I take it you support Fred Phelps all the way? How many soldiers have you attended their funerals and made fun of the family and tormented them?