LouiseC

Good idea. My life is pretty damn perfect and I should go on and enjoy it rather than hang around here and continue what has started to feel like trying to bang my head against what feels like a wall full of ignorance. I have had a good laugh or two though, so thanks for that. Because I am not perfect, I do have flaws, one of which is clearly laughing at those who are just not the sharpest tool in the shed but try and play regardless.

Whether or not you 'agree' with it is irrelevant. It is like saying you do not agree with the legally accepted definition of jaywalking. It is what it is until someone successfully and legally challenges it and creates a precedent. I can't see you being too successful in pursuit of that. Every day in life is the same. The definition applies as does the requirement of social mores. Let's put it into something that perhaps you can understand and relate to. 1. Your husband comes home late and you ask where he has been. He tells you he visited his mother after work. Later you find out that after he visited his mother he went to a strip bar with his friends. Do you feel he was honest with you about where he went? 2. Your teenager comes home late from a party and seems a bit drunk. You ask if she has been drinking and tells you she had two beers as you had agreed she could have two beers. The next day you find out in fact she also had 6 tequila shots. Are you happy with her? These are examples of everyday lies of omission that occur well outside the court room and that challenge our accepted social mores.

You are so sensitive about this topic that I have to ask again whether you are as comfortable with your position on it as you claim to be? Your sensitivity to it and the emotion in your responses indicate otherwise. Everyday I am in a position where I am required to make judgements on the character of others, I am also required to make decisions based on the behaviour of individuals. What I see, again and again, is that the best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour. If someone can easily and effortlessly tell lies or half truths, then I can assess that the likelihood is that they will tell lies and half truths in the future. This is simple risk assessment methodology. Not my invention by any means but tried and true in many professions where making judgements based on the behaviour of individuals is required. So, minkywinks, once you show your self to be someone who chooses lying and deception over honesty then you show yourself as someone who does not value the principle of integrity highly.

We all make judgements, every single day. It is how we navigate life. I will make no apologies for making judgements about the character of a person based on their actions or inactions. It is an incredibly normal and human thing to do.

This is very normal. You have had surgery and need time to recover from that. One of the ways the body recovers is by sleeping, by shutting things down so it can focus on repair. Take the time you need and sleep all you need to while you recover.

If you read all the posts you will see myself and others referring to this as being dishonest, the deliberate omission of the surgery in responding about diet and exercise is misleading and it is the misleading that is the point of contention. The act of omission, when deliberate and calculated, is as dishonest as the act of commission. This is proven in law again and again, it is why when people take oath as witnesses they are required to tell "the whole truth" rather than just the truth. To use an old saying, 'It is like throwing yourself on the mercy of the Court because you are an orphan, when the crime you are accused of is parenticide'. And yet this is justified by those who lie by omission, as you can see, along with attacks on those of us who value the principle of honesty over self interest. Which is what it boils down to, those who value the principles of honesty and integrity as priority over those who define their self interest as their priority. I know who I prefer to be around in my life, my social circle, my work and my community so when asked my opinion, I will always encourage the choice of integrity over self interest.

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What have I done for humanity? I don't keep a score card but I do live my life in order to serve. I don't expect you to understand that, but you did ask so I answered. No one has asked you to save every obese person on the planet and the notion is ridiculous and grossly exaggerated. All we have asked is that you do not make those who ask you how you are losing weight feel bad or feel like failures because you want to pretend the surgery did not contribute to your own success. Again, and I know it can be difficult to understand, no one is asking you to be a spokesperson. They are just asking you be honest.

Well maybe your pants being on fire will help you burn more weight. Good luck with that. I may fade out of this one now as it is no point trying to have reasonable discourse with people not capable of rational discussion. To the OP, as I said before, tell the truth or say nothing.

Lovely :-)

Awesome! I was in shock how many clothes I had when I finally did the big clear out! Now I am very strict with myself, every time something is too big I go and put it in a bag I keep in the garage. When the bag is full, it goes to the local charity store. I won't keep any fat clothes in the house any more :-) What I wasn't expecting was to go down a shoe size, it has been harder saying goodbye to shoes than to clothes! But I am doing that too now. Replacing items is fun though!

Took two weeks off but ended up going back a few days earlier as a meeting came up I did not want to miss. I was fine to return and had no issues. I was flying and staying in hotels by week three.

I do a lot of vege soups and blend them so as to ensure I can get a good dose of veges! I also juiced a bit over summer. I add veges to almost everything I cook in order to keep my nutrients coming from real food as much as possible. I am almost one year out and still can't handle raw veges so salads are out.