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I think its completely okay not to tell anyone. But if you feel you must, then maybe smudging the truth a little bit might be okay if that is something you would feel okay doing. Maybe mention your PCP suggested this type of surgery as an option and gave you information and you researched it and it seemed like something you wanted to do. I notice sometimes that if you tell people initially that a doctor mentioned it as opposed to you having brought it to the attention of your doctor first that they feel more inclined not to judge, because some people feel that if it comes from a doctor then it can't be bad. But not everyone thinks that way about doctors so it depends on the person you're talking to. Just a thought. I'm excited for you. I hope everything went okay and you are on your way to success!

That's great, bigmanshrinking! Thats a great success. I'm glad you have been so successful and are determined to keep going. I'm certain you can make your goal by new years, you still have about 7 months that's plenty of time!

Oh my gosh I'm so happy for you! I'm glad you're doing well and the pain is manageable. What was it like? I've yet to be sleeved

Thanks so much for the support! I'm glad I came here to gather information and meet new people that are going through the same things, and have already. It's so nice to have a please to go to that helps.

At the top right side there are several icons. 2nd from the right is one that looks like 3 little people, tap on that one and then you should see a row of blue tabs underneath those icons. Click on the one that says Friends, to the right of News. Once you are on that page at the bottom is a blue icon that says Add A Friend. The page looks like you are requesting to invite them to the app itself but it's not, it's a friend request invite Another tip is clicking on the icon to the left of that people icon that looks somewhat like a graph. This is where you can plug in your weight changes and measurements if you want to. Hope this helps!!!

Add me please! I am Discordya on there

I'd be up for a texting buddy if you'd like to text with me. If not that's understandable. Only if you're interested and Mrs. wouldn't mind Don't want to make anyone upset!

I think what we are seeing here is while there is controversy over what dumping is for sleevers vs. bypass is the simple fact that since the surgeries do different things with the stomach and intestines, then the actual effect of "dumping" is therefore slightly different but still the same PURPOSE for both. As we all know sleevers have nothing done with the pylori or intestines whereas bypass does. So therefore you can probably conclude that the symptoms and/or severity for dumping would be different in people with varying surgeries. But the purpose the body has for this process is the same, to get rid of food it is seeing as toxins. I was researching RNY long before I even knew about the sleeve gastrectomy and I have read in some places that regurgitating is a symptom and other places claim it isn't. I think it's safe to say that if we believe our body is giving an act of getting rid of something we put in that it doesn't think should be in our bodies, that's along the line of a dump and we don't have to really debate what it is and what it isn't, right? So to the OP, I'm so happy for you on your dump and that you feel more at east about another means of self control. You're doing great!!!

I just started randomly putting on some music since it's my day off of work and sat down here on the forums to read and educate and obsess *lol* So then Lady Gaga comes on with her The Edge of Glory song and I just thought you know? This song is soooo fitting. I have never been so close to WLS in my life even though I have been researching, wishing, hoping and dreaming for a MIRACLE to happen for 3 or 4 years now. I don't get insurance with my job, I did not have insurance through college, so I never had any hope of getting any help with this at all. As everyone, I have tried diet after friggin' diet and yo-yoing and all of that. I'd lose 20 gain 30 lose 40 gain back 35 and coast up back to my original weight real slow, you know just so stupid and annoying. I know that losing weight even with the sleeve will be a life-long commitment but when you don't have a major assistance then it just gets so messed up and you gain it all back or you see another health problem arising or just whatever. It would take years to lose the amount of weight I have the potential to lose with a little help from a surgery such as the sleeve. It's just a whole new realm of hope and reading everyones posts and seeing all of the before and after photos of people JUST LIKE ME really makes me smile and happy to know that I AM NOT ALONE and that this can happen to me, too! My finacee informed me today that the official plan is that we are going to be finding a little cheap apartment together and start from there so that we can begin our lives living together. I'll write that story in another post later because it's sort of a long story. But I am just so excited. I just wonder how long this would take. I'm trying not to sound selfish and be overly pushy and impatient but I've been overweight since I was 8 years old. Can you blame me for wanting to hurry this process up? I've not known anything else but fat, and I just want to know what it is like to be smaller and able to walk into a store and buy clothes that fit me nice and in patterns and designs that I actually like! I've never been able to do that! I really like skulls and bats and weird things. I want to be able to wear things with these types of things on them because I will be able to fit into the sizes they come in! I want to be able to wear things that younger adults wear once and for all and for that to happen before I am over-the-hill. I want to have a taste of that aspect of my youth before it is gone and it makes me so happy that that is finally something that will be ACHIEVABLE! What were some of the first pieces of clothing you bought that you had wanted to be able to fit in to and were just so happy and excited to be able to wear?

You're doing good! I'm glad that you are trying different shakes to try to find one you like. That shows determination! I know what you mean about driving passed fast food! Our walmart has one inside it, and also around it so you smell it all the time. I'm big with smells, when I smell good food I want to eat it! I'll be okay though. One thing I noticed is that when you cook vegetables they also smell VERY delicious! I am going to try to eat all vegetable meals with lean meats baked or broiled or boiled only with no sauces but spices and herbs and that's it. I notice that when I grill fresh vegetables or lean chicken or meat that it smells just as good if not better than those fast food places and it makes the thought in my head that yeah, these healthy foods I can just eat so much better and they don't make me fat! So I try to keep those positive thoughts rolling in my head like that as much as possible. For grilling I have an electric grill because where I live we are not allowed propane and I think charcoal takes too long and I can't stand around that long. What I do is I sit in an outside chair near the grill that I can lean my arm over and open up the lid to see how the things are doing. So all I need to stand for is to get the food off onto a plate. It works since electric outside grills don't have as much heat coming off that you have to be so far away from them and they also are not as big as a regular grill! Just a big bulb shape like your standard charcoal grill is. Maybe that is something you might enjoy, I don't know. But it's nice to do once in a while for me to mix things up a little and have a great BBQ in healthy form. I don't need all the sauce and salt to have a delicious shishkabob with fresh veggies and chunks of plain chicken and shrimp!

Not sure if this might be a good idea or not, but maybe instead of having to lift her you can get down to her on the floor. I'm not sure how your pain level will be or if this is not advised, I don't see why not sitting is sitting and laying is laying but you know maybe if she needs you you can get real close to her on the floor and put your arm around her or have someone stay with you so they can lift her to you I'm sure that won't be bad! If you don't want her near your incisions then perhaps you can lay on the couch or on the bed and have her laying next to you. As others have said it should only be a few days at most that this would be an issue I'd guess. I'm still pre op so not like I know anything more

Hello there, welcome! I am so excited for you. I'm not yet at the point of a consultation so I am anticipating hearing about yours, what you learn, etc. Please update us tomorrow after the consult!

Don't just 'think' you'll get there, KNOW you will get there! I have every faith in you. We will all have those types of obstacles but the important thing is that you got over that stall. Yes the stall happened but you overcame it! That's miraculous! Have you considered a texting buddy that perhaps you can talk to anywhere instead of only at the computer? That way you can be out and about doing whatever you like, but still be in touch with someone for support or just for conversation.

Oh wow, I'm praying for you for sure! I have 2 friends in their early 30's that both had to have a mammo, but both came out benign masses. It may be something more common than we really hear about perhaps. Praying that's what this is

Thank you so much for your reply. I have read so many places that BPD is so often mistaken for schizo or other similar personality disorders. It's also very commonly mistaken for bipolar because of our constant up and downs. To be honest I have never felt better in my life lately and that's strange to me because I am also my biggest I've ever been. I have so many positive things going on right now that I am just overwhelmed with positive thoughts and for the first time the positive are shining through more than the negative. Because it's always been a vicious cycle of negative thoughts when anything good would happen. Don't get me wrong I'm not all cured and perfect, but it's just getting better for me. I have read that BPD since it is not a chemically induced condition that it can be curable in your later years if you work at it. It's just a matter of re-learning to cope and not have such bad habits. All in all, don't blame yourself. There's always things that "could have" been done in someones past, but at the end of the day after so long it really is only up to us the individual with the problem on whether we want to better ourselves or not. Our parents are not responsible for our lives after 18 even though a lot of the good ones feel they are to blame. But it's not true, I never blamed my mother for not getting me help sooner than when I was starting to cut on myself. By that point my thoughts were terrible and my habits worse. I was addicted to sex at 13! Can you imagine? With that said, the fact that you CARE at all is enough to say that your love and encouragement was a good call, regardless of the outcome. Because it still would have been up to her what she wants to do with what she has been given. You know?

Well this is my first blog on this site. I have this itch to write some thoughts out but I find my other online blogs pretty lonely. I have a livejournal that I frequent occasionally but it seems none of my friends on there are active anymore. And I have a tumblr but my friends that I've added don't add me back so I'm feeling a little lonely on the blog part. It's not so much that I want comments, I really appreciate them, but more than anything I just want to feel like at least I have the potential to reach somebody.. anybody. There is something that is very hard for me to deal with and I don't really know where I can talk about it with open arms. I just feel that if I put it out there that someone, somewhere is going to use it against me like what had happened on another website in the past (obesityhelp). I have a disorder called borderline personality disorder. Basically it is very hard to explain and pretty complex. BPD is not a chemically induced problem but rather learned behavior from a traumatic childhood of some sort. They say it is usually linked to familial problems but I had more problems from my school mates and people in the neighborhood constantly beating on me and making fun of me, that is what the doctors think was the trigger at least. I've ALWAYS been fat my whole life since I was like 8 but before that my sister was probably the culprit. There are things that I have only had a teeny tiny light shed on that she did to me but I do not even remember that specifically. I just remember the other parts. I have this in addition to OCD, so instead of having a life full of drug or sex addictions, I have addictions to other things that are repetitive in nature. I do a lot of video games because I take to them and I can get "lost" in them as I become addicted to them without much health risk. I get "addicted" to crafting things with my hands, like arts and crafts. I do a lot of jewelry crafting and other crafts that allow me to "obsess" over learning to make. I've sort of contorted that way as a means of managing my problem on my own with BPD and not being a statistic. Apparently BPD is curable and is usually cured as the person ages, but it doesn't always happen. I also have read that a lot of people with BPD never make it to older ages because they are prone to suicide before then. I feel I manage decent on my own but I am not perfect. I can keep myself from unhealthy habits such as drugs or alcohol or shopping, but I can't seem to control my thoughts. And I wonder how this will effect me in the long run of the WLS process. I don't think that it will be an issue with food because I have come to face that addiction and I don't get addicted to food like I do other things like my crafting. It's not the same. Food is a whole other subject for me. It's something that my family values a lot and Chef's run in my family down my fathers side. There is always gourmet food and lots of it around. Lots of fried foods and delicious elaborately cooked cunconctions that are just so delicious but not really healthy. I've never learned how to eat right or the right portions so basically trying to diet is so foreign to me. I don't understand how things go together with food (unfortunately that is never a craft I took to) although I can cook but I pretty much have to stick to a recipe because my brain just does not put things together with food very well. It's just hard for me. From the ages of 13 to around 19 I was what you may know as a cutter. I use to cut myself. I have not done it since around 18 but I say 19 because I had a little slip up that year. I have overcome that obstacle, as well. I had lots of therapy and psychological evaluations and drug trials but in the end it was something I quit doing on my own. But I will always utilize things I learned from my counselors. I had one counselor that had learned of my fascination with a book from school called Sadako and the 1000 Paper Cranes. We had learned as a school project how to make origami paper cranes and I took to making them very well that I got an award in class. That was in 5th grade. I had this counselor when I was about 15. So in the book when Sadako was in the hospital with leukemia, her friend had taught her the origami cranes to keep her occupied and they hung them from the ceiling until she passed. And I just loved that book, it reached out to me for some reason. So my counselor asked me to teach her how to make the cranes, and we would each make a crane of a different color paper and size each session we had. When I stopped seeing this counselor she flattened each crane and placed them in a box that we decorated together. I still have that box. I am by no means a hoarder, but I take to things that hold sentimental value. When my Mamaw passed away, my great aunt sent home her purse full of some personal belongings that were originally in that purse but some not. I asked my mom when she brought it home to me because I couldn't go to the funeral, what my sister had gotten. My mother told me nothing, she didn't have many personal belongings left because she went through a phase where she was giving away her belongings to people at church (she had dementia). I asked my mom, why did I get all of this then and nothing for her? She said, Thelma (my aunt) thought I ought to have it because she knew I take more value in things like that, the sentiment. It's so true that I do. Not everything do I keep but just little trinkets here or there from times in my life or people or memories of either. I don't know. Since I'm not going through with the WLS with insurance I am curious if they will still ask me for a psychological evaluation. Should I get one even if they don't because of this problem? Does anyone else have any sort of personality disorder or borderline? I'm so afraid of making a post in a forum because I don't want to be judged. I am not crazy nor incapable of doing things for myself. I am very smart and very much capable of working and things. I take no medications although I'm sure someone would try to put me on some but after having so many problems arise from medications I decided to self-help and I feel it has been good for me. I did in my teens along with cutting have issues with sex and drugs but I have overcome that on my own and I feel that I have a pretty good idea of how to keep myself from going to any bad place like that as I've not slipped up since those times. Anyway, just wanted to get that off my chest. Having BPD really makes things a lot harder on the brain aspects of things. I can usually catch myself when I am thinking too irrationally and all but sometimes I do get confused about being in denial, too under exaggerated or if I am being too much. Is there anyone out there who understands this, at all, whatsoever? Am I alone? Reference link: http://www.mayoclini...isorder/DS00442

Patrick your goal is so incredibly reachable and I know you can do it! How are you doing today?

LaBelle509 thanks so much! Would you mind my asking if it is very expensive to talk to her? I do not have insurance so I do have a budget on what I can afford to pay with saving up for pre-op testing. I would love to hear how it goes so I will definitely be checking in. @FutureSleeved To be honest the way I have gotten over a lot of the hurdles and common symptoms of BPD has been self help. Around 19 I was seeing a therapist and she was great at listening and suggesting things to try for coping but I couldn't afford to see her for a while and had to do it on my own, so I started purchasing a few books by some specialists on self help for BPD and fully understanding about myself and the disorder and very important steps for coping. It turns out that all along I have been doing a coping method that they use as one of their first to try in dealing with the noisy thoughts and I didn't even know it. I've just always done it. And I have read in some places although I'm not sure on the accuracy but I've read that BPD is not a chemically induced disorder but more a learned behavioral reaction to young childhood trauma. So it has been known for people as they age older up into their 30's and so forth to totally come out of the behavior and live somewhat normal lives. I don't know the truth in this but either way I feel that I am mostly in check. I made a very long blog post the other day about my obstacles and overcoming a lot of things that I haven't done in many years now and don't find myself having any itches to do those things at all. I'm pretty proud of myself. Maybe finding this forum about VSG came at the right time in my life where I am truly mentally capable of handling something like this, not necessarily on my own of course but I mean in general. I do still plan on talking to someone before and after.

Hello all! I am new here. I was wondering if anyone else here has used this group from http://www.gastricbandinstitute.com/ it is based in Chattanooga area of TN. I will be moving to TN soon and shortly after will be looking into this. I am very interested in the sleeve surgery and have been gathering my info and research to better prepare myself. My questions are about financing. I do not have insurance to cover the surgery so we (fiance and I) are considering to finance it. I have actually been in contact with the group themselves via email and they gave me some information on the financing servicers they coordinate with and which ones they recommend the most, etc. I was just curious if anyone else on this forum has used the doctors involved in this group, which I believe is Dr Jaime Ponce and Dr. Steve Paynter as well as Dr. Richard Fromm. I think I have seen Dr. Ponce mentioned around here before (I have been lurking for a few days) but I wasn't sure if it was the same one from TN. I guess I am just wondering about financing and if it is very complicated to do. My fiance and I both have stable jobs and good credit, so I do not think that it would be too hard to get accepted for the financing. But if we do, what exactly happens? Do you just get somewhat of a credit card that you can only use for medical purposes, is it only applicable to a specific facility that accepts the financer? I know I could just talk to them about it, but I figure this would be a nice way to gather information and meet others that did this through financing in case any other questions come up in the future, and also did it in the same group.

One time I was showing off a corset I bought at a faire to my sister and my nephew was poking and pushing my "hard" belly that was sucked in because of the corset. He said, where did your belly go? I said well its just underneath this hard material here. He said, can you make it come back? I said yep. But why? Do you not like my belly? And he said I love your belly because it is squishy. He was 4 lol. I just hope he does not miss it when it is gone for good! Hahaha Kids are so cute with their brutal honesty.

I am so happy for you!! You will be just fine

Yeah. I have heard similar things. I just don't make enough money to save it in any reasonable time frame. But checking with the companies they affiliate with, I can afford the monthly payment in the longest repayment plan which is like 60 months or something like that.

I certainly plan on having a therapist or someone to talk to just before and regularly afterwards. I am going to be seeing if maybe I can find someone who might have experience with talking to people who have had WLS. So I do plan on keeping in check in that department but I was just wondering of they had the potential to deny me the surgery for a mental issue. I am usually pretty good with setting goals and sticking to them. Just obviously as us all have, weight loss isn't one of the successful ones I go through. Ha. But I mean I set out for college and came out with 2 degrees in honors, which was a #1 for me since both my father and older sister are poor examples for school related things. So its not like my BPD is as limiting as it may sound when it comes to success. I am never too proud to admit when its a good idea to talk to a professional and I fully intend to for this.