soulsong

oops sorry I thought this was my thread not snapdragons as we had a simailr story and title@@@ sorry again

I would def !! do this if I had any money at all. I dont. That I had the original done was a miracle, a gift given by my dad when he retired and got a lump sum. Im ok with being this size. Im healthy otherwise.No diabetes etc.I walk alot and have fun. even loosing another 10 kilos id be more than happy. once my son moves out I can do alot better re food as its tough when a carbie junkfooder lives with you. But will he ever move ? LOL - Thanks.x

I agree re the protein. thanks for the reminder. being vegetarian and also not a huge fan of protein foods I know I struggle with this. although I know many vegans /vegetarians who are thin. One of the reasons I had it done was cos i knew I would never be a protein fan so thought hey if i can feel full eating way less.. lol .

Although IM aware many wont agree and for this reason Ive tended not to reply. But lets allow each to have an opinion without issue ok. :ph34r: I truly believe weight is NOT just a diet excercise based thing, as many here and in the world do-so 'if your not losing you arnt doing enough blah blah blah'. So the ongoing guilt and worthlessness continue. We are all different not only in our biology and pyschology but also spiritually and karmically ( take this how you like according to your own beliefs ) Sure the lap band and other methods will work for many and for some a bit less so but still useful and for some basically they will make no difference. Some say its a fat gene and that our ancestors had to develop bodies that could survive on tiny amounts of food. ( this is proven science ) and I do think has a bearing on our weight loss. Then we can digress for a moment and remember why fat is such a BAD BAD thing according to this world. It means your unhealthy lazy weak and unappealing . right ? or maybe not. Many of us on this journey have researched many of these things and deeply delved into our own process and journeys often to be told rather patronisingly by others that we' just still are eating too much' etc . And it couldnt possible be the fault of the almighty lapband or the magical diet LOL . Do I sound cyncical yes. BUt hey Soujourner I feel for you. I hear you. Love yourself anyway sister xxxx I did get a reply not on this thread but i think On another here ( but I cant find it ) about how id believed Id get teh feeling of fullness. The person said there was not such advertising in Australia ( I didnt mean adverts on tv ) I mean in the classes, doctor appointmnets and pamplets and books id read that is the idea I got. That id feel full. The person then went on the say the fullness isnt normal fullness but a feeling things are about to get 'stuck' if id known this I wouldnt have had it done. I cant handle that feeling at all. To me to call that a feeling of fullness is misleading.I was told and read in the books wer were given as new patients that the chemicals in ling of stomach or something would tell us we were full after small amounts. yeh right. I wish I went way way way better on pills and just wish reductil was still avaible over here. worked a dream but of course they took it off course one person in a 1000 had more heart attacks or some such rubbish ( in otehr words it works and stuffed up teh rest of the diet industry ) dont I sound like a smarty pants today. Oh well. Just an opinion. . I truly wish you all well however your journeys work for you. xx

I really relate to you snapdragon. And I eat more than you. You have alot of discipline for poor results which shows your strength of character. I also feel jealous of those who just loose quickly. My freind was done a year before me and lost 40 kilos which is about 90 pounds in first 9 months and has kept it off 5 years no real trouble at all. didnt even have to think about it! jealous! I have heard that some bodies and brains takes time to 'get the message ' of weight loss, some for a long time before they 'join the journey ' so hold onto weight for a while.. anyway In the end just be as healthy as you can - and know many of us do relate xx

Interesting to read all the replies and sharings. Its funny that I simply dont feel full on small amounts although I dont think I could take more tightening as Id just vomit everything but liquid and thats not a life. I Do get we have to choose what to eat etc For sure I get I can be slack re that But this question I have isnt about that . Its about simply never feeling that fullness on small amounts like they advertise the band creates. Maybe as some say, some are luckier than others with how well this aspect works. I lost about 20 kilos in first 6 months and that was it. since then I go up and down about 5 kilos depneding on whther Im naughty with choices or not. other than that nothing has changed. Its just rather frustrating id just like to feel full . Maybe the chemicals in my stiomach that tells my brain Im full simply dont work. : anyway im getting alot ..from reading the replies so thank you. Love from Down under xx

I am not an uneducated or stupid person.:Let me put that out there. I did alot of research and talked alot on another forum before my Operation and found an excellent surgeonat extra cost. Almost 4 years have gone by. I have not lost much after the few first weeks, where I think its was more recovering from surgery. I have had 4 fills. I have shame and everyone wants to tell me how WRONG I am. That its MY fault it fails etc etc. The fact is I feel hungry - It has DONE NOTHING to actually change my appetite levels. A cold tablet does more with a bit of psuedo in it. Sure food can get 'stuck'.( we all know about eating slow and certain things that do ) And I either vomit or drink it through- I know Im as tight as I can take it given the changes within the month . I wish Id gone for gastic bypass or sleeve. At my last fill about a year ago other than feeling dreadfully embrassed - I met several others in my boat so its not unknown. Just most who post are the 'success stories'. Understandable. I can of course watch my diet as I used to it past ( but still have to reply on discpline as much as ever and I dont do too great. ) The whole thing about it making your stomach think its full is a joke to me. After 3 years of no change I began to put on , eating same calories just like the old days- the body finds its level and wants to revert to it. Anyway I have alot of shame and sadness that I cost my family this much money and IM still so fat. I really wish more people would get real who dont get a big loss so we can understand why it is like this for some of us. But we hide away as we used to before we tried to get the help. I dont want to go back to the surgeon this time because its too sad and basically a waste of time and money. I wish ID had the sleeve at least somthing would have shifted! peace x

Interesting to read all the replies and sharings. Its funny that I simply dont feel full on small amounts although I dont think I could take more tightening as Id just vomit everything but liquid and thats not a life. I Do get we have to choose what to eat etc For sure I get I can be slack re that But this question I have isnt about that . Its about simply never feeling that fullness on small amounts like they advertise the band creates. Maybe as some say, some are luckier than others with how well this aspect works. I lost about 20 kilos in first 6 months and that was it. since then I go up and down about 5 kilos depneding on whther Im naughty with choices or not. other than that nothing has changed. Its just rather frustrating id just like to feel full . Maybe the chemicals in my stiomach that tells my brain Im full simply dont work. : anyway im getting alot ..from reading the replies so thank you. Love from Down under xx

yes im hungry