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Sorry to hear about the shoulder Butter. How did it happen? Was it an immediate thing or gradual over time? I've had to cut back on my military press behind the neck, it ruined my shoulder.....I knew it would, no one to blame but myself. I had surgery about a year ago to remove bone spurs and it feels better now. I've gone back to military press, but now I come down with it in front of my face.... it's a lot better that way and giving me no problems now. Was just curious as to what exactly you did to your shoulder and how. I hope it continues to improve for you!

Not hardly Butter. . Perhaps I take the 'no liquids with food' too seriously. It's a little on the dry side.

Yeah Fiddle, I love oats! Though I just eat the rolled unsweetened oats myself, but to each his own. It's really just about how they are cut or processed I guess. I also like eating mine dry and uncooked......I spoon it right out of that big Quaker cylinder.....I'm also odd like that. :ph34r:

Fiddle....I wouldn't worry too much about that carb/protein ratio. I get that we need carbs (along with the protein) to build muscle, but everyone has varrying degrees of sensitivity to carbs....and it also depends on the type of carb that goes with your protein. So I'm with you, just find out what works for you on the carb/protein topic and go with that. There's really no set in stone blanket ratio for every single person.

Very thought provoking points there Butter! Your posts are always an interesting read. Yeah, we are all on "diets" to some degree. The main aspect is what kind of diet are we on? Good, bad, indifferent? For me before the sleeve, I had an awful diet, now it's better. But I see what you're saying on the diet comment. We all have to aware of what we are putting in our bodies, which pretty much is a diet. Especially if we want to eat healthy foods, eat to fuel our exercises, eat to maintain, eat to maximize muscle, etc. For me, I try to make sure I have what I need to stay strong, lean and energetic.....so I call that my "nutritional approach".....but we all know it's still a diet........my diet.

Of course you can ask and it often comes up here. It's a factor that has to be considered as well. My Dr told me when I felt up to it, to go for it.............I'm still waiting. Just kidding on the still waiting part. He did say to start out reasonably and not doing anything too crazy or strenuous. I've heard other sleevers saying that their Dr told them to wait a few weeks.

Thanks for posting "Blessed"! That's a really good point! A well-hydrated muscle is a well-functioning muscle. They perform optimally when you're taking in enough water. I know the lifting and water drinking has always caused the scales to move slowly for me since being sleeved, but I'm good with that. Thanks again for posting and good luck with your progress on the eliptical machine!

Looking good Fab!! Great job!!

Welcome to the site! People on here are very helpful and more than willing to give advice, input, listen to rants or whatever. Congrats on getting the ball rolling in being sleeved. Personally, I think you'll be glad when you're sleeved and I'm sure you'll not regret it!

Fiddle.....you'll probably know when you've been overtraining and there will be little doubt you've reached that stage. At that point, your body will pretty much shut you down from exercising anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Rest is essential, but how much rest and recovery one needs probably varies a great deal. With my crazy schedule and all that's going on, I do my training Mondays to Saturdays and Sundays are always my rest/recovery day. Rest meaning zero intense exercise, but a brisk walk or playing with my kids is usually the most strenuous activity I have on Sundays, and I don't call that exercise. Maybe "active recovery" at the very most.

GUN ALERT!!! Way to go Fiddle......keep up the great work!!!

I've got to be careful doing that............I'll pull a pec.

I was self pay on my "humerectomy" (funny bone removal). Not sure mine would work on a Monday anyway.......

There.....I just flexed for you. Oh no..........I just pulled a muscle! Ice pack please!

I would say that walking an hour+ four to five times a week sounds like exercise to me. With that said, some weight lifting or resistance training a couple of times a week would probably help as well. Have you lifted in the past or know how to get started?

My apologies if I took a post too seriously. I for one like to pride myself on having a sense of humor and hope to get the same in return. So I’m sorry for temporarily losing my “funny bone”. I read a post that seem to give me no indication that something was said in gest (no smiley faces, no LOL acronym, etc) and since we seem to be bombarded by constant political bullying from all directions these days, I made the assumption this was one of those instances. Please accept my apologies and I’ll try to stay away from message boards on Monday mornings. Being hungry used to make me most grumpy…..now being sleepy on a Monday morning has moved up to the top of the list in making me irritable. Sorry bout that.

Same here........I'm not at goal yet, but I also didn't set a goal weight based on BMI charts or Dr recommendation......that would be WLS suicide for me and pretty much impossible for me to accomplish. So I just made a guess as to a max low weight I would probably be able to go and still be happy with my muscle/strength. Oh...and on the body fat thing.....2 readings told me around 14-15%, the other was around 13%.......so I like that last one better even though I know the other two are probably more accurate.

I'm 6-3 1/2 and around 220. The last time I had my body fat checked it was around 13%, which is pretty good for an old man that used to be around 35%. But the BMI charts say I have to be under 200 pounds to not be overweight. I'm not sure where I could lose another 20+ pounds. Maybe 5-10 or so, but 20+???

I hear ya! Preach it sister!

Good information there and I especially like the part about counting calories. I also think it's kind of useless (in regards to building muscle) to count calories if there are tons of simple carbs and bad fats in those calories. Even if one is at their BMR with those cals, they may roughly stay the same weight, but their body composition (body fat) will deteriorate if there's too much sugar and bad fats in those calories. I'm glad they made that point about eating clean calories...... though it's easier to talk about eating clean than it is to actually do it. No surprise that someone brings up a political aspect to this. Some people seem to work it in anywhere there may be a speck of opportunity to do so. And on top of that.....blind themselves through a preconceived bias. Might be a good idea to take notice that.....when pointing fingers.....there are 3 more pointing right back at ya.

Yes, I actually use the alternating grip more than the hook grip. It helps with keeping the bar from trying to roll while holding it. Then when I go heavy I'll add some chalk. Maybr try different grips and see. Just keep doing those deadlifts no matter what grip....and you'll be glad you did them!

Walking is usually encouraged right after removal from the recovery room in the hospital. Then usually increase it every day for the next week or two. I was told to walk, walk, walk, but be careful straining or picking things up for the first 3-4 weeks. So I started picking up weights around week 2-3 post-op, a little earlier than I probably should've. But I went really light when lifting at first. As far as just movement exercises early on, you can probably be a little less cautious with that since strain is not as much of a factor.

Hmmmm....I've never had that happen to me. I try not to grip too hard when doing deadlifts because I want my hands/arms to only feel like connectors and not pull. So I kind of grip lightly and often use chalk, but that's never happened to me. Have you ever tried a hook grip when doing deads?

It's definitely a "check the box" thing for me and that's about all it is....or was. But now it's become "personal". I'm so close to goal weight now....I can smell it. I feel I still have a way to go fitness-wise, but thank you. I'm sure I've lost a bit of muscle during this recent trim down.....so I'd like to gain that back after I get to goal and settle in around the mid-220's. I'll check back in a few weeks and we'll see..... I do appreciate this thread Cheri....as does about every one else on here. It's very therapeutic and you have a good reasonable approach towards it all. Thank you and you're looking great!

Looking good Bunny!!! Quick update on my very slow loss.....I still haven't reached goal, but I'm a little closer. In my recent push as of a month ago or so, I was 8-9 pounds from goal. As of yesterday, I'm only 4 pounds from goal. I've cut back a little on the calories and the carbs as well as doing an extra cardio session each week. It's not awful, but I do find myself hungrier than before. When/if I reach goal, I'm going to cut back on the cardio, lift more and add back in just a few more cals/carbs to concentrate on muscle/strength again as that is what I prefer. This "goal weight" is my last remaining goal to reach from my surgery, so I want to get it done. Now a little closer.....