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Good one, kindle! Very good.

Yep daisy...when i can hydrate ibstead of eat its a sign im back on track...til the next binge hits. But i value the good parts of the cycle....

Wondering 1,ahhhhhh o.k. thanks for the clarificstion. I am not eating crap at all. In fact im darn scared of it. I saw what 2 cups of popcorn do to me...i hardly eat frut execpt for apples strawberry blues raspberries blackberries and that's it. So that's a life style change ive held onto. I have thalassemia trait and dont take iron supplements because of that. I think thats what my PCP explained. But i do want to figure out what is causing me to eat like my life depended on it sometimes...and other times can be the model for post vsg eating!

Andrea, Yes...ive tried cukes, celery and peppers but baby carrots are the only thing that cuts down on my urge.

Tssiemerb.e.d is binge eating disorder. Its a fairly new addition to the eating disorders roster

Andrea We ALL wanted to lose weight. We ALL did lose a lot of it when we started . We ALL really are discouraged and dismayed to gain it after all of the efforts we put into it. The point is that many of us made the life stlye changes...working out 3 to 5 days a week was not something i did while i was gaining weight. Cutting out all simple carbs when my diet was mostly carbs is another life stlye change i made. The ONE life style change that i cannot keep permanent is not binge eating. The truth is we cannot deal with that because it isn't a factor in the way we live. It's something physical that's going on with us. Its not a weakness on our part. Deprivation is not something we can do 24/7 for the rest of our lives. That's what i believe.

This b.e.d. protocol is the only one i kbow of that is holistic tx for what i have. I have other complications that some programs will not accomodate even tho it is against the ADA act. Currently, a program near me with several nds refuses to work on B.E.D. with me because they do not want to supply an interpreter. They dont state that because it is illegal but they are giving me a run around with a referral to a psycho therapist [which i already have ] instead of an nd who can order blood and urine testing in labs to test for bacterial overgrowth and certain nutrient deficiencies that are said to cause B.E D. So, the only other holistic tx i had found a personal problem that other docs could not dx. She did. Her tx is the only medication that allows me to function normally and without severe pain. Does that qualify on ans to ur q anout holistics? The med is traditional medication not herbal or alternative. But the provider is an aprn who specialized in a protocol designed to identify this disorder and she now works for a holistic office.

Inner surfer girl It gets me when facile suggestions are offered. Reconnecting with nut and surgeon has offered nothing substantive or new for me. In fact, the latest nut from the surgeon 's practice actually gave me 2 cups of popcorn! Of course, i went bonkers: ate it and everything else that crossed my path that week. Has anyone else here TRIED any of the holistic plans with or without success? VSGann...can u set up a new topic on that issue? Thanks

Vsgann, She said why she gained. She is eating all the time! Would you do anything different if you could? I wouldnt have fractured my knees...and i would've followed up with more agressively testing to see if there are any nutrient deficiencies. Why the docs dont do that today bugs me.

Wondering 1 Do check out tx for b.e.d. in still trying to locate a provider for myself [complicated for me] but i am nearly convinced that is the way to go.

Atkins.. That sucks. What are you doing about it?

These arent mistakes. They are normal "testing the waters" to see what really happens if ....u want to define yourself after surgery. I still havent touched any simple carbs...but would it be a mistake if i did? I dont think so. My surgery was 12/2011.

Girl, Ask the doc about binge eating and if he can suggest a holistic pratictioner. ..just kick it around bit. Most docs dont go for this unless they are very open minded. What u describe sounds like binge eating. Good luck

Kindle, the psychiatric and bariatric medical communities reinforce thise societal perceptions of us as lazy, fat, unmotivated and all the other unpleasant adjectives. I KNOW i am trying my hardest and have not returned to junk food or carbs but the damned binge eating has me snarfing baby carrots! And cucumbers and red and yellow peppers and thats why, I think my gains have been kinda mellow. Im just saying i also reject those negative appelations hate being told i haave the wrong attitude or eat the wrong food. I KNOW i dont. So i find so ething that reinforces my perception and then one of our own tribe tells me im mentally ill and etc. Bah. Humbug.

Kindle , I respectfully disagree with this old assessment of obesity. I am committed to exploring the lastest tx and while i berate myself for the binge eating behaviors, still, and castigate myself for "slacking off" and gaining 10 lbs so i realize i am a product of that school of thought. My cardiologist said he is not opposed to me turning over every stone to find a livable solution to b.e.d. before he insists on drugs, again. So i feel empowered. And i have, as i did before vsg in 2011, a new hope that even at my advanced age and with all the physical 'crap' that's finding me now (2 knee fractures in one year) i may still have a shot at living the life that i would not allow myself before i had the surgery. Good luck to all of us!

Vsg I did not expect it to kick in either after 4 years. None of us expect failure. U are correct: everyone will not have the same experience! I HOPE not.

Cindi thats just it: we can't keep this up forever. The binge eating hits after a few years on sleeve. Its not our fault. The fact that it happens to us is proof that yes, surgery is a tool. We still need a solution to B.E.D. IOW: it ain't the answer. Medicine/science should study these results

Mi75, You probably will get back to losing mode. Good u were watching and caught it in time.

James m. Greenblatt answers to binge eating: new hope....its on amazon and there yreason i bought this book is veacause the author oversees?? a clinic in a nearby town that counsels people wIth BED. That clinic doesnt accept my insurance so im looking for another practice that works holistically. I wanna get yo the bottom of this. We are not struggling after surgery because we are "bad fat people". And this is not just another label.

But the premise is: we are binge eaters. It is chemical. It is NOT our fault or failing and itvis cyclical. We are bound tonthis struggle...but there MIGHT be a way to make it easier with some supplements that might be missing. Intriguing, no?

Continuing : found to be low...i think itsxcslled the answer to binge eating. I will post authout and name in a.m. if interested. But im not going for more surgery. And i dont want to start back on pills.

I have a book about the dolution to binge eating. It isn't a diet. It does require blood testing and suggests there is some kind of imbalance with bacterial overgrowth. Sinde i broke my knee, i cant follow up on a clinic that does this testing. Zinc and something else are said

Back to square one but great u got something to look forward to. Thanks for sharing! Hugs

Heather ha! Just been referred to binge eating clinic. I will go when i can hobble under my own steam. I'll see the cardiologist on monday. Hope he will agree to let mebtry this other program before pushing pills. Tjanks forbyour encouragement.

Jstachic...ur very brave! Did surgeon speak to u yet? I hope it went well and no more complications. Please keep us posted. And heal fast! .