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I share your sense of terror. Don't think anyone who has opted for it doesn't go thru the same turmoil. I have been in therapy for most of my life. I keep finding challenges and changes. I still need support. At this stage, 5 years post surgery, I'm still waiting "for the other shoe to drop". I have a new perspective: only dread one day at a time. You WILL make a decision one way or the other. The choice is there: keep doing what I'm doing [not too effective] or try something different [yiiikes] and learn to live with THOSE consequences. The point being whatever YOU decide will have consequences. The familiar are easier to deal with....tge unfamiliar give you a chance to change. I took a chance on me. I'm not sorry I did it. Sent from my SM-G930V using BariatricPal mobile app

Yettid, I can't say yes physiological changes stopped my cravings. I also can't say 'no, they didn't. I don't believe anyone here can offer assurance that VSG or any other alphabet soup is going to do the trick for ANYONE here. We can encourage you and say how it helps or didnt for ourselves but we have no clue how it will affect you and the choices you make pre and post surgery. I don't know where you are now on your journey but hope you will understand why I, at least, am unable to offer a definitive answer to your excellent question. Good luck

Darn. I tried to reply and it bit the bullet. I think that a given must be lifetime maintenance of the loss. That seems NOT to be the norm. I'm not saying it (surgery) Cannot possibly extend one's years....just that other parameters need also be met. Thanks for the research. Sent from my SM-G930V using BariatricPal mobile app

Definitely healthier...POSSIBLY longer but that should not be a reason to have it done.

I seriously do not think that the surgery extends our lives. Berry...that is true but 2 docs told me that I shouldn't think the surgery will necessarily increase my life. It may make it more pleasant, more livable, less prone to disease but not necessarily add time to it.

I seriously do not think that the surgery extends our lives.

Is'there really a 50% regain?

At 210 i cannot feel comfortable in a 16 anything. Guess it's where the clothes are from and where thebm weight sits on us.

How are deaf users supposed to be able to access these podcasts? Frustrated!

Some of us struggle minute by minute with temptation to eat something that could satisfy an old urge but not subvert "the program". So just asking a question about watermelon (pure sugar) when you are so recently out of surgery and trying to avoid sugar kind of makes a reader feel panic....because we had the same process and we followed the doc's orders and we cleared out anything that might tempt us to stray from ketosis....and we thought we conquered it only to find that 4 or 5 years of living with out these temptations does not make it easier to continue down the path of maintenance nor does it guarantee that we won't slip up and be tempted again. It's such a scary path and so easy to slide off. If you can seriously look at that and consider it a possibility and say 'chill' well....WOW that's unreal. I hope you will share this years from now after you have successfully reached your goal and maintained it beyond 3 years and can actually eat anything you want at that stage without regaining...i hope you write a book telling us how it's done! Sent from my SM-G930V using BariatricPal mobile app

Thanks, JR, thats exactly another part of "sitting with it" that I can't do. Cannot affirm myself. I have tried tapping and actually HATE it so much, it enrages me. I always had unkind thoughts when i see people as big or bigger than I am. Every time I mentally "go off" on a hate rampage, I realize I am talking to me. I m going to take this up with the shrink today but I seem stuck on recognizing my unhelpful thinking and never able to move on from there. I need a kick in the behind !

I do recognize when i am having the thoughts. I can identify them. What I cannot seem to come to terms with is "sitting with" it. It doesn't make any sense to me. Something hurts, u fix it. But there is no fix for the thought except to eat it...distract from it, walk it, weed it, read a book.....etc. and there it is AGAIN with a self satisfied grin saying: "im so glad you decided to invite me In to sit on your shoulder and keep you uncomfortable. I win, again. Keep it up , pal" I am unable to find a strategy for "sitting with" anything. No. Therapy is not new for me. Have tried several kinds. Plus meditation, breathing etc. Thanks for your reply.

Yes but doing everything we can is not enough. In therapy most of my life. In gym with personal trainer 3x week. In pool 2x week. I hate myself for not being able to sustain the mental changes that have to accompany the physical changes. Dam* coward.

Has any shrink come up with a workaround to the self sabotage? Fear is a HUGE factor. I can deal with it for several weeks, loss starts again, and sabotaging intrusive thoughts follow almost as soon as I realize "yeah! Did it!" My lowest was 188 in 2014 and now I'm at 215. Was sleeved in 2011. HW 428. Sincerely hate myself. Sent from my SM-G930V using BariatricPal mobile app

The sleeve will NOT make any difference in what you decide to eat. Sorry.

Thank u for the advice. I am feeling less bloated today. I don't truly miss having anything but i did buy coconut cheese...apparently almond product's are not on the list.

Fighting possible SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth ) i was given a 3 week elimination diet. Anyone else following this or can share pointers? Sent from my SM-G930V using BariatricPal mobile app

I only started yesterday. Have no clue what to expect or how to plan it. So far I'm feeling dizzy but get out and walk dogs. Now i had a weird bfast of cuke, mixed berries,a few grapes sardines, and a few walnuts. Could not eat half of it. And am running to the john. Before I would have non fat thick yoghurt with berries and flax seeds and some walnuts. It also made me run, but i would be scrounging another nut...another berry. Maybe the milk content? I was never lactose intolerant. Did your daughter see a holistic integrative medical voodoo doc?

Whats a coaching program? How does that work? I have assiduously not touched a complex carb since dec 5 2011. I work out 3x week land with personal trainer and 2 to 3 x week swim. I ve gained 10 to 15 above my lowest. I suppose i could pack in cookies etc but i still have not broken that fast. I have messed up with the no liquids right after a meal. I do overeat baby carrots. Sometimes i indulge in low fat string cheese. Sometimes blue berries....but i have gained in spite of everything and i hate that aspect of this struggle because there is no reward for the hard work. Yes. Being a smaller size. Fitting into an airplane seat [just ONE!] tying my own laces, wearing a swim suit,...yes it is a reward but i do not think it commensurate with the efforts i expend. Nope. For all that work i want MORE.

Apple 1 Let's just drop it for now. Thank you for caring to respond.

Jess...i googled fundus. My surgery was at yale so i am not questioning that the surgeon was lax. I do sometimes feel more restrictions than others but havent isolated quite shen that occurs except when i substitute a garden of life protein powder. But not so much now that its formulated with pea protein. Im not panicked about this, as yet. I don't like it...but do accept that it's a life long struggle and i will never consider myself "out of the woods." My surgeon remarked on my fourth year follow-up that he never expected i would adhere to his 'rulings' as rigidly as i had. In fact he had his nut encourage me to add berries as complex carbs because i was not getting enough. So...i am looking forward to seeing what the new voodoo doc will recommend and hope i could resume the 7 keto DHEA but won't get ahead of myself. Thanks for your discussion.

i very clearly said it was presuming i am dishonest with myself that engenderd my anger. You persist in reading what resonates with what you are thinking. Such messages are not helpful.

No. What angers me is that you and others presume i am not honest with myself and that is the source of what i am considering 'failure'. Sincerely wish you the very best with your sleeve.

Jess i had vertical sleeve and never was questioned about a fundus. This is the first time anyone mentioned it. I also was dx'd with SIBO but that provider is in another state and cannot treat me unless i drive 4 hourz to see her. So i found another "voodoo" doc to see here where i live. The supplements did seem to help and i had better control with thsm. But with my a fib situation, i dont want to take supplements without supervision. The western med docs did not discourage me from Seeing her but they freely admit they do not know what tge supplements actually do. They helped mainly with lack of energy and fatigue and depression and anxiety but we hadn't got to the bacteria as yet. I hope this closer voodoo provider will be netter match