Jigglebutt1 - I contacted Dr. Robert Pinnar of VA. I have set up their seminar. I wanted to get some information from you, if you don't mind. You paid out of pocket, can I ask how much you paid? Did you like the doctor? What positive and negative do you have of the situation. How many month from your surgery and how much have you lost? I have a BMI of 31 and have tried everything. I am 56 years old. I am just starting the process and really would like to see how it is from some one who has gone through it. GalaRod.