Corrigan

I had a similar surgery in September. I did spend a night in the hospital, I think it's a good idea for everyone, no matter what surgery they had. I was able to drink a limited amount for a few hours, then sip almost as much as I wanted. Placation (stomach folding) has been done for some time, the problem was that over time, the stitched stomach enlarged and allowed complications. With the band, restriction can be added, eliminating most of those problems. It is investigative, but a few insurances cover it now. I haven't seen a downside yet.

I'm going to add something to this thread. There have been a lot of complaints about non supportive spouses in this thread and others. Maybe we should think about how obsessive and enthusiastic we are about our surgeries. Even supportive people get tired hearing about our diets and weight loss after a while. It doesn't mean they aren't glad we're losing, maybe they're just tired hearing about it. Just something to think about.

Hey LW, What does 10X12 equal? That would be your weight loss in a year. If you have a balanced diet and get enough exercise, your weight loss is right where it should be. I've lost 50 lbs and the skin under my forearms began to look like crepe paper, a little work in the gym and it's all gone. Fills won't lead to excess weight loss, in fact, if hunger isn't a problem for you, you don't have to have fills. I haven't and I'm still losing, but not everyone can get away with that.

I think it depends on the type of band you have. The Lap Band is held in place by sutures and sometimes mesh while the Reliant band has little prongs that grab onto the stomach muscle. Most surgeons, are currently pulling a bit of the stomach up and stitching it over the band to prevent slipping. Some call this "modified plication". Plication merely means to fold, and applies to several types of surgery. If your pain is really worrisome, see your doctor, which is obvious. No one here can tell you exactly what's wrong. You should try to have it examined under a fluoriscope, if possible.

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Don't forget your slippers and PJs, you don't want to walk down the hall in a hospital gown. You'll need chewable vitamins w/iron, vitamin B12 dots, calcium citrate/w C, but you should know all this, don't you?

What is your doctor going to do when you develop diabetes, sleep apnea, high blood pressure or heart problems? Find a PCP who is a little more proactive. I really hope it works out for you.

Productive burp (something comes with it).

I think doctors like to fill under a fluoroscope to make sure everything is in the right place and orientation. The majority don't use one due to cost to the patient.

A little warm, I'd say no. Mine was the same way for about a month. If it gets hot or sore, then you might see someone.

I guess you don't have to be told that is a rough period. You could try sugar free Popsicles, Greek yogurt, sugar free fudgescicles and my favorite, Costco chicken broth : > ). I wish there was something I could say that would make it easier, but there isn't. Maybe someone will come along with some better ideas, until then, best of luck.

I'm not a girl, but I'll see what I can do. To begin with, the surgery is really easy, all you have to do is show up with your PJs and slippers.They do all the rest. When you're all finished, you go home and try to walk as much as you can to prevent the slim chance of blood clots and get rid of the gas they use in surgery. Some people have a problem with it, I didn't and you may not. You'll be told to drink as much of 64 oz a day as you can to stay hydrated and to help with bowel movements. You'll probably have a little sore throat from the intubation device they use to help you breath during surgery. It'll go away in a few days. You'll probably get pretty hungry the first few weeks, but it diminishes slowly. It isn't as bad as some make it out to be. It does take a bit of will power, but it's like being on a diet with help with your hunger. After your fills, it won't be as much of a problem. Don't worry about too much, just think what you'll look like 100 lbs lighter. Best of luck to you.

I could eat a gallon of Costco vanilla ice cream in one sitting, it's the best vanilla I've ever eaten, but then my weight loss would stop and my diabetes would return and the $60000 spent would be wasted, so I choose not to. This is my deliberate choice, I've decided I would rather be 100 lbs lighter than I was. To accomplish this, I have decided to give up my beloved pizza, beer, and all of the other comfort foods I love. This wasn't an easy decision, when I see my friends and family enjoying foods I want, I have to reaffirm my choice everyday. It's difficult, but I'm doing it day by day.

For the past few months there have been quite a few people saying they where dizzy, shakey and sweating. To me these are classic signs of hypoglycemia or low blood sugar. The temporary cure is glucose in one form or another, table sugar, orange juice or even a piece of bread. When you suddenly stop eating carbohydrates I think your body reacts in an adverse way. From my experience, your body gradually adjusts to the lower blood sugar and then functions normally at lower levels. I think people on pre and post op diets should be aware of this and watch for those symptoms.

Why on earth............never mind.

It's usually just muscle pain, it's come up several times in the past week. If it really has you worried. see someone just for your peace of mind.

I bet almost everyone undergoing this surgery has thought at, one time or another, that this was a big mistake. For liquids, all I could recommend is the old standards, vodka martini, whiskey sour, etc (joke) Sounds like you're doing great, you should be on full liquids now. Fudgesicles, Popsicles, I like chicken bullion from Costco (big jar) not too imaginative, but you'll get lots more. Congrats on the 11 lbs. Only ??? more to go.

Cathy, Here's something to read: Corrigan, on October 27, 2011 - 12:29 AM, said: Here it is, I hope you find it helpful. My name is Amy Workman and I am a bandster (everyone: HI Amy). I haven't posted on here in a long time and thought I might share with you my blog post from today. If any of you watched the recent Dr. Oz show about Lapband, I thought it might be nice for those of you just beginning to see a more realistic idea of the band. I was banded January 27th, 2009. I weighed 327 and today weight 159 pounds. I love my band. My before and after pictures on here are not updated, but you can find all my pictures on my blog. If you have any questions, please email me and ask away. Sometimes we forget when we were first beginning. Do you remember the first time you googled Lapband? Or the first time you logged into the forums...frantically searching for before and afters....looking at successes and getting pumped...stumbling upon a horror story and then getting scared? Do you remember the stupid questions you asked? I remember posting on lapbandtalk.com something like "is one cup of Wendy's chili bad for you?" Well, I am going to try and remember back to when I didn't know much about the band...and what information would have been helpful. Here goes... Did you know: I started at 327 pounds. My doctor, the wonderful and handsome Dr. Jeffrey Friedman, told me that the band is not always the best choice for someone who is a grazer. They find that the band is actually more successful for men, because men tend to eat in volume (sitting down for a huge dinner and getting really full, vs eating and munching on little things all day). Some doctors say that the band will not work as well for those of us who are or were really morbidly obese. I disagree. And there are plenty of us out here who are proving them wrong. Did you know: The band may not work for you? You could have the surgery and not lose much weight at all. It is not a sure thing. BUT, if you work with the band...it can and will work for most of us. What does "work with the band mean"? Every doctor has a different regimen they want you to follow. Every doc is different, as it almost every patient. Some say no pop/soda, some say it's fine. Some have a 2 week liquid preop and scare the sweet baby jebsus out of you about not shrinking your liver enough for surgery and not being able to operate (thank you Dr. Friedman). But, you will have to do your part with the band. You will have to watch what you eat. You will have to eventually get your ass up and exercise. You will have to make healthier choices and just be better. I know you are saying WHAT? That sounds like a diet to me. And I fail at diets!!! The band is a TOOL, not the Alpha and Omega of your weight loss journey. You can "cheat" the band by eating sliders and soft food. I for one could eat cheetos all day long and the band would sleep right through it. But with the right restriction, your band prevents you from eating that large pizza, the extra value meal, the entire bovine. You have to find a doctor that you can have a relationship with. They have to be open with you and you have to be open with them. You HAVE to go see them for fills. You have to follow up. You have to be a good patient. ASK QUESTIONS. What can you eat once you are banded? At this point in my journey, I can't think of one thing I CANT eat. However, there are somethings that I try to stay away from because they are difficult with my band. Example: Bowtie Pasta. It doesnt go down well. And then it just sits in my band and expands...causing me to PB (get to that in a second). I can't eat a sandwich, or a hamburger with a bun, but I could eat a roll if I tear off little pieces at a time. Hot dogs give me problems for some reason. Dry chicken or reheated meat (with the exception of a hamburger) often give me problems as well. I still drink soda, I still drink beer. I love Soups. I can eat veggies. I can eat fruit. Eating after being banded is about going slow. It's about chewing. They say with proper restriction that 4-6 ounces of solid Protein (a piece of meat about the size of your fist) should keep you full for 3-4 hours. Most docs want their patients to avoid "slider meals". Meaning, eating a bowl of Soup for lunch or yogurt for Breakfast isn't going to keep you full or satisfied because it will SLIDE right down. You want your food to stay in your pouch, and slowly drop down. Sometimes though...food may get stuck and then you get "sick". The Dreaded PB: A couple things may happen if a piece of food gets "stuck in your pipe" as Heather refers to it. You aren't going to die. It's not like it gets stuck and you need the Heimlich. But if a piece of food gets stuck, ain't nothing else going down until it moves or comes up. The first thing that may happen is a productive burp (PB). This is not throwing up. When something gets stuck, your slobber starts to build on top of it. For me, when this happens, I get a weird sensation in the back of my jaw. And if I wait long enough, I will have to get somewhere private (hopefully) and let it come up. What comes up is this weird slime/foam combo. It doesn't hurt. And hopefully...it moves whatever is stuck. Sometimes though, it takes a little more work. Sometimes that one piece of food I didnt chew enough will be down there for hours. And then, it's not PBing. It's sort of like dry heaving until that piece comes up. There is a tightness in the chest...a pressure. It's not fun. I will say that not everyone gets stuck or PB's. And most of us would agree that when we do get stuck...it's our fault. We eat without being present, we didn't chew, we ate too fast. Restriction and Tips for Eating: Unless you are extremely lucky, you will not awake from surgery with perfect restriction. Some docs put a little liquid in your band to start with, others wait. I had to wait 6 weeks for my first fill. And again, unless you are the rare case, you probably won't get restriction with your first fill. It took me several fills before I had good restriction. ASK your doctor what his/her fill policy is. Some docs are super restrictive with their fills. They only fill on a schedule. They don't care whether or not you have restriction. All I know is if Dr. Friedman hadn't let me tell him that I was ready for a fill...and if he had made me wait regardless of what I could eat...I wouldn't have been as successful as I was. You will know you have restriction when you have it. It's sort of like having sex. If you have to wonder if you had an orgasm or not...um...you probably didn't. Restriction will keep you full and satisfied for 3-4 hours. You will be able to eat less. Restriction DOES NOT RESTRICT YOUR BRAIN. You may still mentally crave things. You will have to learn the difference between head hunger and physical hunger. This is very hard. When you do have good restriction, you will have to change the way you eat. This is easier said than done. You should be taking small bites. For example, if you are eating steak, you need to cut that sucker up into pea sized bites. You need to chew. Then, set your fork down and wait a few seconds. You should eat sitting down. You should pay attention to what you are doing. You will learn that things like eating in the car is rarely going to end well. (Always have your emergency PB kit in your car. A couple of bags, some papertowels or handywipes. Trust me.) You probably shouldnt drink with your meal or for 30 minutes after. liquids can help push your food down...thus...cheating the band. How much weight will I lose? How quickly will I lose it? Now you know that there is no one answer for this. Statistically, Lapband patients lose around 40% of their excess weight. SO, if you are 100 pounds overweight, statistically you will lose 40 pounds. I hate statistics. And remember, they are an average. 17 more pounds lost and I will have lost 100% of my excess weight...and I am not alone. It can happen. However, there are so many factors that go into how much and how fast. Genetics, age, diet history, personal support, family life, exercise. Some weeks I lost 7 pounds. Some weeks I gained 5. The weeks I gained, I gained because I ate poorly. I cheated the band The weeks I lost, I ate and made healthy choices. There are some weeks, even when I WAS doing the right thing...I didn't lose. It can be frustrating. But you can't give up. You will have to keep upping your game. At some point, even with the band, you will either have to adjust your food or exercise. But, I feel like the band is "cheating". I feel like if I have WLS, I am weak. I'm gonna tell you what. Who gives a flying monkey's ass?! Cheating what? Cheating early death? Cheating sleep apena? Cheating high blood pressure, sore joints, diabetes? I say CHEAT AWAY then. There is no shame in WLS. It's not about will power. It's not about failing. It is about trying to find a tool that works to give you some power, give you your health. I tell whoever wants to know or will listen about the band. And yes, I have heard "Oh...well...I thought you did it the hard way"...or "hmmm...that must be nice". I say listen FOOL. There ain't nothing easy about the band. It makes some things easier but it is still work. And I find that people either give you 'tude about the band bc they are afraid or jealous or because they don't understand. Either way, that is okay. I will educate or I will ignore. I feel like if I were to say "oh, I am just watching my diet and working out"...that I would be lying by omission. AND, my real fear is that someone who is overweight will think "Well, Amy did it "the old fashioned way", and they will feel like a failure when they try and do not succeed. Will my relationship fall apart if I have the surgery? We all hear the stories of what happens when someone has WLS. The divorce rate and seperation rate is a little higher for us. There are several reasons. One, for some of us....when we lose weight, we become a different person...or the person we would have been if our bodies hadn't been our enemies so long. Our expectations may change, we may want more. OR, our partners may not be able to deal with the new us. OR, as in any relationship...sometimes it's just time to move on. I don't think that having WLS should make you fear losing or changing your partner anymore than the normal person. There are tons of bandsters out there still happy and maybe even happier with their significant other. Sometimes though, even though we can't see it or don't want to admit it...we have settled. And once you start to shed your cloak of security or denial...you realize you deserve more (too bad we don't realize that to begin with. Long story short...people change and grow...with or without weightloss surgery. Are you worried about complications: No. But most days I am not a worrier about things that may or may not happen. I heard recently that the stats for band slipping are about 5% and for erosion, about 1-2%. Slipping for example, can be avoided most of the time and according to the docs...is easy to fix. Erosion is of course a little more scary. But I hope that by always paying attention to my body, my band, and how I am feeling...I can avoid it or if it ever happens...catch it early. Do fills hurt? Mine never do. My doc has never done one under fluoro. He gives me a numbing shot and then the fill. How many fills do you have to have? To get restriction, it took me 4. My first year I had around 6 fills. My second year, I had 2. Will you ever have the band taken out? Lord I hope not. Even now that I am at goal weight and weight loss is more of what I do instead of what the band does for me...it's always there. It's my safety net. It will keep me from ever being 327 pounds again. Why did you choose the band over other options? I was 28 when I decided on the surgery. I didn't want my stomach cut apart. I still wanted to be able to absorb my nutrients. I wanted to be able to eat sugar and other things without getting physcially ill. I liked that the removal of the band was a possibility if something went wrong. I liked the idea of being able to control my restriction. And even though I bitched and complained along the way, I liked the idea of a slower weight loss (vs Gastric bypass). It gave my skin and my brain a little more time to adjust. Did you know there are different brands of lapbands? I have the Allegran Lapband. Ask you doctor your choices and the differences. Mine is a 10-11cc band. Some are smaller. Were you worried about the loose skin? Barely. I figured I may look like a saggy deflated sack after I lost my weight, but I would rather be deflated then morbidly obese. And I am lucky. My skin is nowhere as bad as it could have been. Again, so many factors go into skin. Age, genes, working out, sun...etc. Would you do it again? In a heartbeat my friends. In a heartbeat. It was the best decision of my life. It was a tremedous catalyst for change. I can't think of one negative consequence of the band.

This is one of the most positive posts here in a while. It's great to hear someone who's had a good experience for a change. Congratulations! As far as telling anyone, that's completely your decision. Good for you.

Linda, Amazon has the bars for $13.64 and everything else on their web site.

Dana, if you have time, maybe you could describe the steps you went through to get approval. It's not for anyone in this thread, but to help people who haven't even started yet. It's surprising how many folks have similar problems and this type of information is invaluable to them. TIA

My surgeon said not to take any asprin products while healing, you can take Tylenol or the pain killers you were given, but that's all Any NSAIDs may cause damage to fresh stomach wounds. I hope you're walking as much as you can. That relieves the gas as much as anything, that and GasX strips. You should probably stick to showers until your first post op appt. I hope it goes a little easier for you, it really does get better.

You write well and I respect your opinions, but if I come in for lunch and drink a Protein shake and it holds my hunger at bay for 3-4 hours, I feel that is sufficient for a meal. I know it runs right through, but if I feel satiated until supper, that should be OK. I'm not looking for permission, just trying to understand the process. I apologize for hijacking someone else's post.

I can't see how fills, by themselves, could cause gas, more likely something in your diet. Have you been drinking protein shakes? Has anything in your diet changed? I haven't had any fills (no hunger) so maybe someone with more experience will come along.

I wish I had something to offer other than sympathy. My wife has RA and takes Embrel. It makes her life reasonably normal. Congratulations on your weight loss, but I guess that's of secondary importance now. I don't think anyone here can offer you anything except similar symptoms and sympathy. I wish you the very best of luck, and I hope you can find some answers.