Ron Cusano

You say it's reality and you are entitled to your opinion. There is a lot of evidence to support other views, so I am not convinced that global warming is caused by Co2 emissions and the like. I believe that the global warming that we see happening today is just part of the normal warming and cooling cycles that the earth has experienced since creation, and many scientiests hold that same view. It's not reality to them!

What's in it for me? Nothing! I am not against anyone doing good things to conserve energy, clean up, polution, help the enviroment, etc. I think thet are responsible things to do. I'm all for it. Am I convinced that global warming is caused by Co2 emmissions and burning fossel fuels? I am not. I think there are a lot of question marks and a lot of good arguments against it, but I have an open mind. I don't believe it's a proven fact and I see a lot of hysteria resulting from it. My problem with Al Gore is not that he is a Liberal, but the fact that he is profiting big time politically and financially. If it was Bush or any Conservative, I would feel the same way. It has nothing to do with politics. I also have a problem with so-called evangelists that use faith to line their pockets. Does that suprise you? If Al Gore, and everyone else on the global warming bandwagon really believed what they is saying, shouldn't they all be driving hybrids or using commercial airlines when they travels, instead of private planes. Shouldn't they all be driving a hybrid cars and be using solar heat? Shouldn't they be putting political pressure on third world countries that cause the majority of the emmissions polutions? I don't see any of this happening, do you?

You may be right, but he seems to be screeming the loudest and gaining the most.

I could not agree more! We all need to make responsible changes simply because it's the right think to do!

I don't think there is any real debate, even among scientists, that we are in a cycle of global warming. I think the debate is over the cause, with sides being devided over weather is a natural cycle or caused by man- made emmissions. Again, there is a lot of evidence on both sides of the issue. Al Gore is on one side of the issue and is milking it for all the political and financial gain that he can. That's the part that I have a problem with.

You are correct! I misread it and he is not a scientist. Nevetheless, there are many scientists, such at reported here - http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A347_0_2_0_C/ - that hold that same view. Other interesting links - http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/12/15/111313.shtml http://www.cnsnews.com/Nation/Archive/200411/NAT20041119a.html http://www.helium.com/tm/122584 Regardless of which side of the fence you are on, there is a lot of evidence both ways.

There is plenty of scientific data on both sides of the argument, and I personally think that the overwelming evidence points to global warming being a normal occurence, just as it has always been. That's my opinion, and you are entitled to yours. As far as politican, and financial gain, does the name Al Gore ring a bell? He claims to have all the facts, but refuses to debate scientists that completely disagree with him, and have facts to back up their conviction. Again, that's my opinion, and you are entitled to yours.

Karen, I was the one who opened the thread and I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss. No intent to cause argument or name calling. I also used the term "tree-hugger" because it is an expression that I have heard to describe a fringe element that is very radical in their idiology about the enviroment. It was not directed at any one in particular and no harm was intended. The subject is something that effects us all so I thought it would make good conservation!

Jill, I agree with you 100%! I believe that global warming is a natural thing and the alarmists are using it for political gain. I also believe the we have a responsibility to use the enviroment wisely, clean up pollution and find other energy sources because it is the right thing to do. I am a fisherman, and I see the difference in Water quality and the amount of fish around compared to 30 - 40 years ago when I was a kid. I also believe that by employing organic methods to agriculture, we can not only reduce chemicals in our food chain, but reduce oil consumption, since chemical nitrogen fertilizers are petroluem based.

I think we need to use our resourses responsibly, but I wonder about man's ability to change the climate with our C02 emissions. I'm no scientist, but I have read articles from noted scientists that state that burning fossil fuel, etc. can not possible have a global effect on climate because of the vast size and scope of the enviroment. As a former organic farmer, I know first hand how nature can replenish that which is used, and purify that which needs cleansing. I tend to believe them!

So do I! The earth has been going through warming and cooling cycles since forever, with much greated temperature ranges. I think it's all a bunch of political garbage by the tree hugging crowd!

Bill & Hillary Thought you would enjoy reading this... Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 8, 1964 , accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number 326 46 228. Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964 . Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968 . Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969. Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969 , under authority of Col. E. Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E... Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.' Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE! Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40. Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice. Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21,1977, from President Carter. Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States . All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton . After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia , which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa , which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC that are now dead would be alive today. AN INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate question. There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity. The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden? THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forth coming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath. Sincerely, Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)

My Attorney After living what I felt was a "decent" life, my time on earth came to the end. The first thing I remember is sitting on a bench in the waiting room of what I thought to be a courthouse. The doors opened and I was instructed to come in and have a seat by the defense table. As I looked around I saw the "prosecutor." He was a villainous looking gent who snarled as he stared at me. He definitely was the most evil pe rson I have ever seen. I sat down and looked to my left and there sat My Attorney, a kind and gentle looking man whose appearance seemed so familiar to me, I felt I knew Him. The corner door flew open and there appeared the Judge in full flowing robes. He commanded an awesome presence as He moved across the room. I couldn't take my eyes off of Him. As He took His seat behind the bench, He said, "Let us begin." The prosecutor rose and said, "My name is Satan and I am here to show you why this man belongs in hell." He proceeded to tell of lies I told, things I stole, and in the past when I cheated others. Satan told of other horrible perversions once in my life and the more he spoke, the further down in my seat I sank. I was so embarrassed, I couldn't look at anyone, even my own Attorney, as the Devil told of sins even I completely forgotten about. As upset as I was at Satan for telling all these things about me, I was equally upset at My Attorney who sat there silently not offering any form of defense at all. I know I was guilty of those things, but I did some good in my life - couldn't that at least equal out part Satan finished with a fury and said, "This man belongs in hell, he is guilty of all I have charged and there is not a person who can prove otherwise." When it was His turn, My Attorney first asked if He might approach the bench. The Judge allowed this over the strong objection of Satan, and beckoned Him to come forward. As He got up and started walking, I was able to see Him in His full splendor and majesty. I reali zed why He seemed so familiar; this was Jesus representing me, my Lord and my Savior. He stopped at the bench and softly said to the Judge, "Hi, Dad," then He turned to address the court. "Satan was correct in saying this man sinned, I won't deny any of these allegations. And, yes, the wage of sin is death, and this man deserves to be punished." Jesus took a deep breath and turned to His Father with outstretched arms and proclaimed, "However, I died on the cross so this person might have eternal life and he accepted Me as his Savior, so he is Mine." My Lord continued with, "His name is written in the Book of Life and no one can snatch him from Me. Satan still does not understand yet. This man is not to be given justice, but rather mercy." As Jesus sat down, He quietly paused, looked at His Father and said,"There is nothing else that needs to be done. I've done it all." The Judge lifted His mighty hand and slammed the gavel down. The following words bellowed from His lips... "This man is free The penalty for him was already paid in full. Case dismissed" As my Lord led me away, I could hear Satan ranting and raving, "I won't give up, I will win the next one." I asked Jesus as He gave me my instructions where to go next, "Have you ever lost a case?" Christ lovingly smiled and said, "Everyone that comes to Me and asked Me to represent them, received the same verdict as you, "PAID IN FULL."

This is how HE identified HIMSELF!!!

I am going to allow the Word of God to answer all of the above . . . "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of they ministry" 2Timothy 4:3-5 These passages were never more true that what has been happening on this thread. Do with this scripture what you want.

All of these rants coming from a self-professed Socialist/Communist that hates our government, hates our president, and claims to worship a god that he says is imperfect and fallible that he made up without believing the only records that give accurate information about God, the Bible. Yeah, there is a lot of credibility there so we all better pay attention.

You can all think what you want! It's a free country and God gave us a free will for which we will all have to answer for someday. You are in for a rude awakening! It is interesting to note that those mocking the authority of the literal, infallible scriptures, and me personally, are athiests, ultra liberals, liberal Christians which does include Catholics, and an old man who is a socialist/Communist, hates the government and country he lives in and worships a God of his own imagining that is admittedly imperfect and fallible. Why should I be suprised! In fact, this raging is exactly what the vWord of God describes in the first verse of the 22nd Psalm. Jesus said we shouldn't be surprised if "the world hates us for His names sake, because the world first hated Him"! You all just prove Him and the scriptures to be 100% correct, literal and true!

For someone who claims to know the Bible intimately, those statements show you don't have a clue.

Yes, my God is perfect. I can't say much for the God you worship. If he's in imperfect, I want no part of him!

Jesus tried to convert everyone, didn't He??

Can I be your friend too??

As a former farmer, I can tell you that animals do experience discomfore during giving birth!

That's one way to change the subject, avoid having to answer questions and get real! Go on yet another tirade against the government, Conservative Christians, social injustice and everything that's wrong with this country. :faint: :notagree :help: SOS = Same Old Story!!

That is your opinion! No one told you to leave the country. As usual, you are twisting my words and making things up. I listed three choices that we all have. I didn't tell you to do anything. And, no, you don't have to explain your lifestyle to me. I just thought since you are always yelling about social injustice and the down trodden, that you would be going to great lengths to change the world unless it's all just talk. Regarding you religious conviction, let me see if I understand you correctly. Your beliefs are off limits to discuss, you can tear apart mine, is that what you're saying? That's not a discussion, thats like Socialism, which is another name for liberalism isn't it? Now who's the reall bully here??

All we're asking is "How do you know about Jesus and whatever it is you believe" if it didn't come from the Bible??? What are you basing it on?? It's a simple question!