Formerly Fluffy

What you call "negative views" are my lap-band experiences! Believe me, I would have preferred NOT to have had the negative experiences!. And why would you ASSume that it makes me feel better to tell my side of things. And why is it when you tell your experiences it is just that, but when I do it, I'm "pushing my negative views on others"???

YOu've called me out? And what exactly is that suppose to mean? lol

My BMI is around that. What does one have to do with the other? And on the 2nd thing. ....what the hell are u talking about???

Oh I have no doubt that you have worked really hard! I'm not discounting that at all, but if you have a band that works at all........you are LUCKY! If your band hasn't failed YET..........you are Lucky! Some of us don't have that luck. I'm glad you do, but then again, that is just part of the picture, and I commend u on the hard work u have put into losing weight!

~It was obvious her post was a quip at you, but meant to be taken without real regard.~ Oh really? Is that what you THINK it was? Really?! Well first of all it wasn't! And 2nd of all..........you think that justifies what she said about me??? Now keep in mind that I did NOT direct any statements to her prior to that. Since SHE made the statement about mental illness, it would seem that SHE is the one that make "it seem that having a mental illness would be horrific". Otherwise why would SHE have even made the statement?!

I never stated that you were directing your comment to me, now did I? Regardless to who it was directed, it was uncalled for. It is extremely tacky of you to ASSume that someone that has not had success with the band as you have, has not b/c they are too lazy and expects the band to do all the work! You have been one of the LUCKY ones. Can you not be happy for yourself w/o trashing someone who has had a failed band?!?!?! Or is that what it takes to make you feel superior?

As I have stated on here. I never reached restriction. As to WHY it is not working. No one knows. If my Dr. doesn't know, and Allergan doesn't know (I have contacted them directly), then I really don't think someone on this forum is going to be able to diagnose me.

I suggest YOU go back and read since u don't know wtf you are talking about. Jean is the one that brought up mental health issues. If you go back and read you can see what she accused me of. SHE is the one that has previously stated that she has mental health issues! Let me also add that this is something I never mention until she accuses me of having mental health issues to deflect from her moronic posts! I have sympathy and compassion for people that suffer from mental health issues, but that does NOT mean that I intend to let them belittle and insult me with out taking a stand!

I'm very glad you have been successful with the band. But why would you assume that those that aren't don't want to do " hard work and those not willing to change their life styles "??? That is very judgemental! Rejoyce in your success.............but don't you dare say that those that have not found it don't want to do any work or change their lifestyles when in fact it is the BAND THAT FAILED!

Lol. Funny. Now your trying to get me to waste my money on your book? Lmao!

If you don't like my "antiband rants" then my all means, feel free to skip over my posts. :-) ~You are also keen to promote the sleeve yet it appears that you don't yet have one.Maybe you should hesitate to sing it's praises until you know for sure that it is as wonderful as you think it is.~ Yes I "promote" the sleeve, as do I RNY and DS. Why? B/c I have seen it work for the majority of those that got it! Do I need to have all of those procedures to "promote" them? No. I've never had a vasectomy but I know that it is a success most of the time. Lol. ~There are also far fewer people on the VSG board than on the band board. And you would probably be pushed to find any other than Tiffykins that has been banded for more than 2 years.~ Maybe on THIS VSG board. Not on all of them dear. ~So yes some have been through both surgeries and have found the sleeve more to their satisfaction, but the question is will they still be happy in 2 or 3 years time?~ Maybe they will. Maybe they won't. But what I see over and over is ppl getting the band that are not happy with it. And we are not talking in 2 or 3 years time. Your band may have worked for you. That is great. But how dare you judge those of us that have failed bands?! Yes the best way to make a decision is with facts. And it is a fact that my band failed and that there are plenty of ppl out there with failed bands. So I think you have a lot of nerve expecteing the pre-ops to come here and hear the happy band stories...........but u want those of us with "less than perfect" band experiences to keep our mouths shut and stay away!

Excuse me?! You want to tell me just what exactly "my mindset" is???

If you want to clear things up I suggest you ask her about HER mental health!

Oh it's very much luck! It may be working for you up till this point. You have no way of knowing how long your luck will hold out. And again.....the band does not work for most ppl long term. You'll find out. Have a nice day!

Excuse me?! My "paranoid psychosis"?! Oh no YOU did not go there! YOU off all people! I have read where you stated that you have had a mental illness since a child............and you have the nerve to accuse ME of that?! I suggest YOU look in your freaking mirror! Now I know you have a lot of unsold band books that you want to hock, but that is no excuse for insulting and trying to discredit someone who tells the negative side of the band that THOUSANDS of people have experienced!

I think there is a misunderstanding about the amount of fill you have. When you go in for the first "fill" that doesn't mean that they are going to "fill" the band to capacity. I have never heard of one doing more than a 5cc fill the first time. I actuallt got a 3 on my first fill. Hopefully they will be able to get the amount right on your next fill. Never happened with me. 17 fills and 4 partial unfills and never a "sweet spot/green zone"! :-( Good luck!

With the other surgeries almost all lose all or most of their EW. The same can NOT be said about the band. Yes, there are ppl on the VSG board that have not lost as much as they would like. Yes, there are ppl on there that struggle. But I'm talking % wise. There are far more VSG'ers that are happy with their WLS than bandsters. In fact go on any VSG forum and ask which is better and you will have a lot of FORMER bandsters tell you they prefer the VSG! You will also find FORMER bandsters on the RNY and DS forums as well. Why do you think all those ppl want to revise FROM the band??? Why would they want to put theirselves through all the pain and expense of yet another WLS if the band was that wonderful?! And since you want facts, I'll post the report from the ASMBS: Band Gets Low Marks And as far as me "scaring the c@@p out of people"......well maybe they should be scared! I know I would have been scared as hell if I heard about what the band was REALLY llike before I got mine! I only wish someone had spoken up to me and told ME the truth! And another thing...............didn't the poster come on here and ask for advice? Why should you give your advice, but you don't think I am entitled to give mine? What makes your opinion more valuable than mine???

With your previous health issue I understand why you choose the band (and btw, I hope it was a compete success!). However I have to disagree with your last statement: ~ I think though which ever route your friend should chose to go is her choice and the end result is better health then she can't go wrong either way.~ As you know, some ppl lose NO weight from the band. Many lose nothing significant. And of those that do lose, a high % of them have to have it removed (or at the very least have a 2nd band operation!) within 5 years!!!

No I wouldn't be able to have it filled to capacity. I wouldn't be able to swallow! I have at this point had 17 fills and partial unfills. It's either too loose or too tight. If you can't swallow liquids you dehydrate. NOT an option! Now I am surprised by what you said, that you are almost completely full and have just had 2 fills??? Most Drs. take fills rather slow. How many cc's did he put in your band on the first hun???

I never said VSG was perfect. Nor did I even imply that! I stand by what I wrote. I have never known anyone with VSG that has not lost weight! Could there be? I'm sure there could be. But that would be the exception to the rule, as opposed to the band where it is quite common for many bandsters to not lose, or to lose only a minimal amount of weight from the band! Now there are many with the band that do lose a significant amount of weight...............only to develop complications and have to have their bands removed! So be careful what you wish for I suppose, lol.

i WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THE BAND TO MY WORST ENEMY! Since you are self-pay, you need to keep in mind that you may end up like me.........out $15,000 with a band that doesn't work. I will now have to pay to have this POS removed, hopefully before it does any damage! I have had 17 fills and NEVER reached restriction. Most Drs. and band mills will not tell you BEFORE they put the band in that this is very common! :-(

Glad the band has worked for you. Most of us have not been that LUCKY!

The ;;surgeon will usually have a brand preference. Between Realize and Allergan.........well one is just about as bad as the other from what I can tell. :-( Keep in mind that regardless of how many cc's your band holds...........that you may NEVER reach restriction! This happens to about 20% of bandsters. Unfortunately most Drs. or band mills do NOT tell patients this BEFORE they put the band in them! :-(

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Shell u know nothing about this! ~What WLS does is that it allows you to feel satistifed with that small amount. ~ SOME WLS's do that! The band does NOT do that for many banded ppl! That is one of the reasons that so many ppl revise FROM the band!!!