Weight Loss Surgery Success Habits

I didn't get surgery to eat meat and die of cancer or heart disease.

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The meat obsession when it comes to WLS is indeed a bit strange.

I didn't get surgery to eat meat and die of cancer or heart disease.

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LMAO.

I didn't get surgery to eat meat and die of cancer or heart disease.

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If you don't eat animal Protein, then substitute the Protein of your choice. If you are vegan or vegetarian you are should already be used to this.

I didn't get surgery to eat meat and die of cancer or heart disease.

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If you don't eat animal Protein, then substitute the Protein of your choice. If you are vegan or vegetarian you are should already be used to this.

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The meat obsession when it comes to WLS is indeed a bit strange.

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I think there is a lot of focus on Protein only when it comes to nutrients out there regarding nutrition after WLS. Like Protein and Vitamin pills are enough to provide healthy nutrition while ignoring phytonutrients more or less completely.

I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be much concern out there regarding absorption of phytonutrients. I wonder how much e. g. lycopene is absorbed when eating a Tomato etc.

I didn't get surgery to eat meat and die of cancer or heart disease.

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The meat obsession when it comes to WLS is indeed a bit strange.

Well, the prescribed 2-4 oz of meat is hardly an obsession when the average American is probably eating 8 oz of animal Protein at a meal.

I am 13-years out from gastric bypass and have not eaten red meat for so many years that I have lost count at this point. But the validity of bariatric surgeons telling us to eat animal Protein is apparent to me, based on my personal experience. And my experience has been that, I eat wild caught fish and organic raised on pasture eggs and supplement with vegan Protein powder (of which most brands are crap) and collagen. Sometimes I will eat organic free range poultry. I also take lots of supplements including a heavy dose of Iron. All this personal history is given just so that I can tell you that given these high dietary standards, I still struggle with Iron deficiency and anemia from time to time. So, I will say that there is legitimacy to the prescribed "up your animal (red meat) protein intake."

Dr. E. E. Mason wrote these gold standards several decades ago and there is a lot of value in them. They are not nutritional guidelines per se and so they don't include things like phytonutrients -- that's my take on it anyway. That said, given what we are now seeing as far as nutritional deficiencies and digestive disorders in long-term bariatric patients, perhaps the ASMBS will publish more comprehensive nutritional guidelines for micronutrients and (one could only hope) phytonutrients. There is some detailed information on the ASMBS website regarding micronutrients, and a European bariatric surgeon that I spoke with recently said this was a big area of discussion at their annual meeting.

When I had my gastric bypass surgery in 2003, I was told that I needed to take one Multivitamin, one Calcium, and one iron tablet a day. That turned out to be a complete fallacy. The quantity of supplements that I take is extreme.

GSleeve822, rather than try to degrade ops with name calling -- ops, who I might add, take precious time out of their busy lives to write articles such as this purely to help bariatric patients -- why not add to the conversation with information from authoritative sources that support your point of view rather than issue complaints that show your lack of gratitude and decorum in a public forum?

As always, my information is cited from the authoritative sources from which they are taken, and shared here for informational purposes. You should always check with your healthcare provider, as well as trust your gut instinct... if something doesn't feel right to you then by all means exercise your right to not believe it.

Well, the prescribed 2-4 oz of meat is hardly an obsession when the average American is probably eating 8 oz of animal Protein at a meal.

meat at every meal (so the article says is recommended) seems a bit excessive, even if it's still less than the "average American" consumes.

However, to each their own. In the end nobody is forced to eat that much meat (or animal Protein in general).

There is nothing wrong with eating animal meat if you choose to... we were advised to eat Protein... Protein does not only come from meat, you can get it from many sources....

I think the focus on animal meat products is that it is the easiest and most well known type of protein... any layman when asked what protein is.. will answer meat, poultry, fish.

I personally get sick of eating the same type of food... i need variety... so i switch between animal and non animal sources depending on what i feel like.

Also, i think the original info which was published in 1995 has some info that would be considered redundant now as new research emerges... it would be good if there was an updated version

There is nothing wrong with eating animal meat if you choose to... we were advised to eat Protein... Protein does not only come from meat, you can get it from many sources....

I think the focus on animal meat products is that it is the easiest and most well known type of protein... any layman when asked what protein is.. will answer meat, poultry, fish.

I personally get sick of eating the same type of food... i need variety... so i switch between animal and non animal sources depending on what i feel like.

Also, i think the original info which was published in 1995 has some info that would be considered redundant now as new research emerges... it would be good if there was an updated version

Dawnie_doo

There are quite a few points that i disagree with... eg waiting 2 hours after eating before drinking!.. you would never get your fluids in... it also states to drink Fluid rapidly... this causes pain for some people.

Also adding fruit to make up a quarter of a your plate... this wouldn't apply to diabetics... thats way to much for each meal.. way to many sugars

There are quite a few points that i disagree with... eg waiting 2 hours after eating before drinking!.. you would never get your fluids in... it also states to drink Fluid rapidly... this causes pain for some people.

Also adding fruit to make up a quarter of a your plate... this wouldn't apply to diabetics... thats way to much for each meal.. way to many sugars

Dawnie_doo

Drink Water rapidly? This is so wrong.

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Well, the prescribed 2-4 oz of meat is hardly an obsession when the average American is probably eating 8 oz of animal Protein at a meal.

meat at every meal (so the article says is recommended) seems a bit excessive, even if it's still less than the "average American" consumes.

However, to each their own. In the end nobody is forced to eat that much meat (or animal Protein in general).

Ah, gotcha. I am curious now why Dr. Mason finds "meat" superior to these other protein sources. My guess -- and this is completely my opinion -- is that because it stays in the pouch longer (he seems to emphasize delayed emptying of the pouch in his rules) as well, perhaps the higher Iron content.