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Hi! If you search this topic on the message Boards there are some PRior threadS that I found really helpful when considering this question myself It seems that some people feel safely able to use ‘herbs’ after surgery.

Thanks 🙏🏾 I will definitely post to keep everyone updated

I most definitely use this it’s awesome my sleeve is nov 1 I’m ready I have already been taking my vitamins just to get a good routine and it’s doing good for me so far since I’m on liver shrink diet

ONLY general medical issues not elective surgery. WLS is still considered elective unfortunately and our public health system requires a ton of tests and waiting up to 3+ years for any kind of WLS and only for the most extreme cases. I've had to get insurance and pay some out of pocket for my surgery but only a few tests to go through. Whereas Europe/UK they have figured it's best to give people surgery and save millions on obesity related illnesses...

I went to Tropical Smoothie for lunch and had a smoothie for the first time since surgery. I drank not even 1/3rd of the Detox Island Green smoothie (5ish ounces). It has spinach, kale, ginger, banana, mango, and pineapple. In the entire 16oz it said it had 43g carbs, 29g sugar, and 180 calories and no sugar added (naturally sweetened) and I AM ACTIVELY DYING. lol. It was the only one on their menu I dared to try based on the nutrition label, expecting to drink half, but my pouch is NOT HAVING IT. I feel so mentally fuzzy and nauseous. Death becomes me. RIP. No more smoothies for me, ever, ever everrrrrr. I have gotten so used to throwing food away it's depressing. ;( I'll go out and try something new, wait about 20 minutes and then be like NOPE and have to toss it. I usually eat 50g of carbs a day, so 20 in one meal was a leap. I'm sure it was the fructose, though. Whaaaaaa.

When I've had trouble tolerating water due to nausea, I've eaten sugar-free popsicles, which provide fluids -- not a lot, but still better than foregoing.

So do think its better to try to eat higher calories in a shower time window nd then fast the rest of the time? How far out were you when you tried IF AZhiker.

I had that problem for a bit. I wasn't hungry, but my tummy was telling to go EAT!!! I wasn't really hungry, it was mostly head hunger. I was actually dizzy from it all. I called my Nutritionist and talked to her for a bit. She suggested that I stretch out my food (eat a little lunch now and then finish a few mins later), and make sure I was getting in my 64 oz of water and 70 grams of protein and not to forget my vitamins. It worked but for a few days....Ackkk!

I can relate. Years out, the calorie range that once worked for me changed. I was frustrated. I have no experience with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Could it be a stall or eating maintenance calories? Some options to try. Log your food and dial your calories back by 100. If you are doing the same workout repeatedly, try different types of exercises every other day. Wishing you the best, Jennifer

Check out the intermittent fasting threads. IF is a very powerful tool. It took my last 15 pounds off lickety-split. There are several ways to do it. Probably the easiest is to limit the hours in which you eat. Skip breakfast. Eat from noon until 6 or 8 pm. This means you are fasting for 16-18 hours each day. This puts you into a fat burning mode because the insulin levels are low for most of the day. After a few days, you will feel great and will not even miss breakfast. Try to limit your snacking. Every time you eat something, insulin goes up and the calories go into fat storage. Insulin = fat. That is the simplest way to explain it. Another IT technique is ADF (alternate day fasting). You limit your calories on 2 or more days during the week (do not have to be consecutive). Limit to 400-500 only. The eat regularly on the other days. This sort of throws a curve ball at your metabolism and can be very effective. A third way is to do a 24 hour fast once a week. Skip breakfast and lunch one day and don't eat until dinner time the next day. You can use any of these tools or combine them. Some folks use all three.